In the wake of the U.S. airstrikes on Iran, Democrats are pointing to Trump’s own promises that he wouldn’t ensnare the country in foreign conflicts.

Democrats are seizing on Donald Trump’s surprise attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities to make the case that the world is becoming more dangerous on his watch, not less, and that he is reneging on a promise to avoid foreign military interventions.

The argument strikes at Trump’s contention that his blend of negotiating skills and toughness is enough to keep the United States safe.

In the space of a few days, Trump has made the United States a combatant in another Middle East war that exposes soldiers to potential deadly reprisals, Democrats contend.

In a statement, Democratic National Committee Chairman Ken Martin pointed to Trump’s inaugural address, in which he said he would measure his success by “the wars we never get into.”

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    The fuck he didn’t. Look up Biden back in 2001 and 2002 on the senate floor screaming about how Iraq had nukes totally frfr pinky sware on me mum. That fucking clown couldn’t gobble dick cheney’s balls fast enough.

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    Wow, the fucking hypocrisy. Everyone is pointing out the genocide, which is fair enough, but more relevantly the Yemen bombing campaign is pretty much exactly what Trump is doing, only Biden had the sense not to call it a war.

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    Sucks that they’re lying and whitewashing but hey, at least they’re pretending to be anti-war. If we’re really lucky, we might even get a candidate in 2028 who says war is bad, and then pivots immediately if elected.

    There hasn’t been a legitimately anti-war presidential nominee from either party in my lifetime, and there never will be, unless something changes drastically.

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    For fucks sake leave Biden alone.

    Bringing him up only hurts the Dem party.

    It doesn’t matter if Biden is slightly better than trump. There’s no gentleman’s agreement that when Republicans run a shitty candidate the majority of Americans hate, that Dems need to do the same.

    Progressive policy is overwhelming popular, and we got a good number of politicians who authentically support those popular positions.

    That’s who we need to be talking about. Not running PR for a geriatric that fucked us over and probably bears more personal responsibility for trump being president than anyone else in the country

    If Biden’s old ass would have let a fair primary happen, whoever won it would have easily beaten trump. But he put himself over the country, like countless neoliberals have before him.

    Quick edit:

    Thought this was the first time I’d disagree with the new chair, but bringing up Biden was all the author, Martin doesn’t mention him once:

    “In January — speaking to the entire nation at his Inauguration – Donald Trump proclaimed ‘We will measure our success not only by the battles we win, but also by the wars that we end, and perhaps most importantly, the wars we never get into.’

    Today, against his own words, the president sent bombers into Iran.

    Americans overwhelmingly do not want to go to war.

    Americans do not want to risk the safety of our troops abroad.

    Americans do not want a president who bypasses our constitution and pulls us towards war without Congressional approval.

    Donald Trump needs to bring his case to Congress immediately.”

    https://democrats.org/news/dnc-chair-ken-martin-statement-on-trumps-unilateral-act-of-war-with-iran/

    Eventually I’ll disagree with Martin on something, but he’s killing it so far. I’m even optimistic enough to see this part:

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      For fucks sake leave Biden alone.

      My man had four years to put a very obvious, comically easy to convict, serial murderer behind bars. And he dragged his feet because he thought Trump 2 would be easier to win against than Trump 1.

      That’s before you get into the genocides he backed or the pandemic responses he defunded or the insurance reforms he quashed or the fucking Clarence Thomas SCOTUS nomination. Dude should be crucified for that last one alone.

      There are so many, many, many reasons to hate Joe Biden. We could be living in a golden new age of peace and prosperity in 2025 and we would still have ample reason to damn that piece of shit to hell for ten lifetimes.

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      Martin did phenomenal work in MN. I was genuinely surprised he got through the gauntlet.

      We need seismic change within the Democratic party to show people they are worthy of their vote. You can’t lie to and disenfranchise voters for decades, then make the argument “but we’re not as bad as the other guy” and have it land.

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    He enabled Israel by continuing to supply their genocide. The US was getting roped into Israel’s war either way. Both are senile assholes. Kamala never had a chance because Biden’s hubris

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      She might have had a chance, but at every turn she chose to say she would be no different from Biden. The fundamental reality is that people are disgusted by the status quo and don’t show up for those that say nothing will change.

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        I still swallowed my pride and voted for her anyway, but I’ve never been so insulted as when I heard the “greatest economy ever” line over and over.

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            Tell yourself that all you want buddy. I wish I hadn’t voted for her, it was stupid voting for someone who clearly gives no shits about fighting fascism or preventing genocide, and I won’t be voting for blue presidents ever again bc they’re only going to get further and further right

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              Because it makes so much more sense to abstain from voting so now your vote is for fascism as opposed to picking the non-fascist.

              It’s peak denial of reality

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                THERE ARE MORE THAN TWO PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR

                QUIT EXCUSING YOUR UNCONDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR LIBERALS

                Just say you love killing gazans and getting fascists into office, there’s no other explanation for thinking democrats are even remotely decent

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                  All caps doesn’t make you right buddy. I hate it, but until we can reform our fundamentally flawed system there are two options. Especially for president. If you split a state to a progressive canidate you almost garuntee a Fascist/Republican victory. The system itself is flawed. I’m sorry it’s a harsh reality to accept. I was like you once. I made this very mistake back in 2016, and I vowed to never be such a fool again.

                  Don’t chose fascism friend.

                  Just say you love killing gazans

                  Save the weak and overdone character attacks. The apartheid state of Israel has no right to exist. Unfortunately that wasn’t on my ballot and no torching my vote didn’t put it on the ballot either.

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                “as opposed to picking the non-fascist” Liberals are fascists. They have done nothing at all to oppose trump. When they stop siding with fascists over progressives literally every single time, maybe you’ll have something remotely resembling a point

                When there’s 9 people at a table and a fascist sits, etc etc

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                  Liberals I’d say are to the immediate left of fascism. They definently enable policies that allow fascists to exist. While never taking that power themselves.

                  What people like you seem to forget is that our voting system is fundamentally broken and flawed. It limits our voice so short of a revolution we have to pick damage contol.

                  Funnily enough the only people that have tried to fix it are the democrats. Plenty of states under democratic control have pushed for a popular vote for president. It’s not going to fix the voting system, but it would be a big improvement and then you would actually have a significantly better chance to get a third party canidate elected. Then you would have a point.

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          It was great, just not for the regular working people that normal economic barometer’s used by governments ignore.

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            That’s exactly why it was insulting. It’s basically saying “I’m sorry you can’t afford a house, but the stock market is great!”

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            The economy was/is abysmal for the average American. School is unaffordable, housing is unaffordable, and food is becoming increasingly unaffordable.

            When they were saying the economy was good, they were saying stocks were up. Which mostly benefits the wealthiest.

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        don’t show up

        They did show up. Kamala Harris won more votes than Barack Obama.

        People talk like the Democrats didn’t successfully twist arms and browbeat supporters into showing up for them in droves. 75,017,613 people voted for Kamala Harris, despite her vile stench.

        Trump simply brought in more.

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        I agree 100%. She would have been better in that she’s coherent, but just another neolib failing to address systemic problems.