Useless. Time for the Social Democrats to form their own party.

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    Unpopular opinion here; but there’s no way an impeachment would succeed and a failed impeachment strengthens Trump’s position with his base.

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    Make no mistake. This is a game of politics. Nothing more. They’re not doing anything other than playing a wicked and degenerate game of human chess. They don’t care about anything other than their bottom line. They’re basically saying fuck the American people how can I personally benefit from this!

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    AOC might be testing the party. She should know who is going to vote for impeachment before the vote.
    Apparently there are still majority of congress critters who will ride the horse of greed right into the ground then think they can call a cab.

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    Here is the full list of Democrats that voted to table the articles of impeachment.

    Find yours, call them, and let them know they’ve failed to represent the people interests.

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      Ro Khanna doing his standard move of cycling back and forth between pretending to be a progressive and just being utterly spineless.

      I truly hope “refused to impeach President Trump” becomes a purity test in the next primary. That’s a lot of incumbents to kick to the curb, but with this vote it’s well warranted.

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        Only problem with this method is that there are those who voted for his first few impeachments but not this latest one, so they can say they have in the past but not specify which one.

        Also it’s a sad state of affairs that we have a President whose been impeached several times.

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          Give a date and time. Motherfuckers you don’t get credit for kinda representing the party sometimes.

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      On the other hand, if they did vote for impeachment, call them and tell them to keep up the good fight.

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      My guy is on the list, so he’ll be getting a call from me today. He’s useless anyway. I wish he’d get primaried by a tough progressive.

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        Hey, have you considered running? I’m not trying to be snarky, some of these mfs basically go wholly unopposed, and you can’t possibly do worse than not running at all.

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          I’m not a Democrat, I’m an Unaffiliated Independent, which makes it almost impossible to win.

          Besides, I have too many skeletons in my closet. I would get blown out in a dozen ways. I’m also too radical, I’d say something to end up disappeared to a Black Site.

          Keyboard Warriors like me also serve a key role in spreading the message. The MAGA Nazis have the Conservative Propaganda Machine, so I can do my best to do my small part to fight them on the Left. That’s my role.

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            Please bear in mind that I’m trying to be helpful. If you were interested in doing more, maybe you can start a stream on Twitch, then? It would certainly get a lot more reach than Lemmy. I think Lemmy has a great role as a way for leftists to network, but its reach is really limited.

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              I hear you. I was a fairly big poster on Reddit, with a 12 year old account, nearly a million Karma, and a lot of followers. Then I got permabanned during the post-inauguration bloodbath.

              Lemmy’s reach is growing. It feels very much like Reddit when I first started, and nobody knew what it was. Today, Reddit is on its way down, and will continue to slide as they kick out any MAGA opposition.

              I’m still reaching a lot of people, and I believe Lemmy’s influence will continue to increase, as Reddit’s influence and reputation continue to plunge.

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      And then send them out to pasture like Andrew Cuomo.

      It can be done. Do it enough, and you’ll have a party that actually represents the people.

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        Yup, that’s what democracy is supposed to be all about giving engaged citizens the tools to change the system to reflect their values!

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      Sarah McBride voted against the measure that may save her life some day. Way to once again throw trans people under the bus.

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      Also, if your rep is not on the list, call their office and express your appreciation that they voted to move forward with impeachment.

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      I wish the office came with a mandate that they’d personally have to field constituent calls 4 hours a week.

      But like so much else, they aren’t going to legislate accountability for themselves.

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      Thank you. One of my representatives, Gabe Vasquez, is on the list and I messaged him. Funny that he put out a press release condemning the actions of bombing Iran but doesn’t want to support impeachment. What a turd.

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      Well, I’ve just sent emails to the representatives that I could. Probably half of the ones from my state prevented emails from going out because my address didn’t fall in their district.

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      I looked up the ones in my state, and I’m just gobsmacked at how fucking ugly the districts are. I know gerrymandering is bad, but when I actually have to see it… /puke

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      Reminder that you can also do this if your rep voted against tabling to express support for what they’re doing and they they’re representing you well.

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      TBH they’re representing my interests pretty well in this case. An impeachment trial would have just been a huge waste of time unless 20 Republican Senators joined the 47 DNC caucus to remove Trump and I can tell you right now with a 99.9% certainty that wasn’t going to happen.

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    This is the democrats a certain class of moron thinks that people not voting for - not giving consent to - gave Trump power.

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    The US is an inescapable hell. I pity the people living there right now.

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    Despicable. The Democrats are a shell of what they used to be. How fucking pathetic, but also expected.

    Time to vote 'em out, folks! Eyes on 2026 & 2028, if we make it that far!

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    128 Democrats join House Republicans to defend fascist dictator

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    Here’s the full list of House Democrats who voted to table the impeachment articles.

    Pete Aguilar (California)
    Gabe Amo (Rhode Island)
    Jake Auchincloss (Massachusetts)
    Wesley Bell (Missouri)
    Ami Bera (California)
    Don Beyer (Virginia)
    Sanford Bishop (Georgia)
    Julia Brownley (California)
    Nikki Budzinski (Illinois)
    Janelle Bynum (Oregon)
    Salud Carbajal (California)
    Andre Carson (Indiana)
    Ed Case (Hawaii)
    Sean Casten (Illinois)
    Kathy Castor (Florida)
    Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick (Florida)
    Katherine Clark (Massachusetts)
    Emanuel Cleaver (Missouri)
    Jim Clyburn (South Carolina)
    Herb Conaway (New Jersey)
    Lou Correa (California)
    Jim Costa (California)
    Joe Courtney (Connecticut)
    Angie Craig (Minnesota)
    Jason Crow (Colorado)
    Henry Cuellar (Texas)
    Sharice Davids (Kansas)
    Don Davis (North Carolina)
    Madeleine Dean (Pennsylvania)
    Rosa DeLauro (Connecticut)
    Suzan DelBene (Washington)
    Chris Deluzio (Pennsylvania)
    Debbie Dingell (Michigan)
    Sarah Elfreth (Maryland)
    Cleo Fields (Louisiana)
    Shomari Figures (Alabama)
    Lizzie Fletcher (Texas)
    Bill Foster (Illinois)
    Lois Frankel (Florida)
    Laura Gillen (New York)
    Jared Golden (Maine)
    Dan Goldman (New York)
    Vicente Gonzalez (Texas)
    Maggie Goodlander (New Hampshire)
    Josh Gottheimer (New Jersey)
    Adam Gray (California)
    Josh Harder (California)
    Jim Himes (Connecticut)
    Steven Horsford (Nevada)
    Chrissy Houlahan (Pennsylvania)
    Steny Hoyer (Maryland)
    Val Hoyle (Oregon)
    Hakeem Jeffries (New York)
    Julie Johnson (Texas)
    Marcy Kaptur (Ohio)
    Bill Keating (Massachusetts)
    Timothy Kennedy (New York)
    Ro Khanna (California)
    Greg Landsman (Ohio)
    Rick Larsen (Washington)
    John Larson (Connecticut)
    George Latimer (New York)
    Susie Lee (Nevada)
    Mike Levin (California)
    Sam Liccardo (California)
    Ted Lieu (California)
    Zoe Lofgren (California)
    Stephen Lynch (Massachusetts)
    Seth Magaziner (Rhode Island)
    John Mannion (New York)
    Lucy McBath (Georgia)
    Sarah McBride (Delaware)
    April McClain Delaney (Maryland)
    Jennifer McClellan (Virginia)
    Betty McCollum (Minnesota)
    Kristen McDonald Rivet (Michigan)
    Morgan McGarvey (Kentucky)
    Gregory Meeks (New York)
    Grace Meng (New York)
    Kweisi Mfume (Maryland)
    Joe Morelle (New York)
    Kelly Morrison (Minnesota)
    Jared Moskowitz (Florida)
    Seth Moulton (Massachusetts)
    Frank Mrvan (Indiana)
    Richard Neal (Massachusetts)
    Joe Neguse (Colorado)
    Johnny Olszewski (Maryland)
    Frank Pallone (New Jersey)
    Jimmy Panetta (California)
    Chris Pappas (New Hampshire)
    Nancy Pelosi (California)
    Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (Washington)
    Scott Peters (California)
    Brittany Pettersen (Colorado)
    Nellie Pou (New Jersey)
    Mike Quigley (Illinois)
    Jamie Raskin (Maryland)
    Josh Riley (New York)
    Deborah Ross (North Carolina)
    Pat Ryan (New York)
    Andrea Salinas (Oregon)
    Mary Gay Scanlon (Pennsylvania)
    Brad Schneider (Illinois)
    Hillary Scholten (Michigan)
    Kim Schrier (Washington)
    Bobby Scott (Virginia)
    Terri Sewell (Alabama)
    Adam Smith (Washington)
    Eric Sorensen (Illinois)
    Darren Soto (Florida)
    Greg Stanton (Arizona)
    Haley Stevens (Michigan)
    Marilyn Strickland (Washington)
    Suhas Subramanyam (Virginia)
    Tom Suozzi (New York)
    Emilia Sykes (Ohio)
    Paul Tonko (New York)
    Ritchie Torres (New York)
    Lori Trahan (Massachusetts)
    Derek Tran (California)
    Lauren Underwood (Illinois)
    Juan Vargas (California)
    Gabe Vasquez (New Mexico)
    Marc Veasey (Texas)
    Eugene Vindman (Virginia)
    Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Florida)
    George Whitesides (California)
    
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      My representative, who is generally a pretty progressive guy, is on this list. A local journalist asked about his vote, and the statement from his office was that the congressman is waiting for a classified briefing on the Iran strikes to help determine whether the president broke the law.

      I know that we live in a world where we expect not only a 24-hour news cycle, but 24-hour resolutions to all issues. Having a solid argument and proper evidence for impeachment is the sort of thing that moves more slowly than we would like.

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      All that does is make a whole new generation of politicians become attached to their privileges.

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        Depend how the retirement goes politician of today have nothing to fear we need the cult of luigi to start the luigining

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        I don’t understand what this comment means. The alternative is to… let them serve until they’re 80-90 years old? We need younger politicians who are personally invested in the future of this country and the planet. And term limits. We need them both.

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          You’re advocating a reset without a change to the underlying system. Expecting a different outcome is insanity.

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                Don’t be coy, people are pushing for change and all you have to say in response is that the fundamental systems are still in place.

                No shit, but your revolution won’t come from sitting around and waiting for it to start.

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                  So that was what I’m advocating, sitting around and waiting? I’d have to ask you again to copy/paste that bit…

                  You do realize It’s not binary, right?, It’s not a choice between voting for democrats or sitting around waiting.

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            Did I say I didn’t want to change the system? But it’s literally impossible to do if we let these old, entrenched politicians stay in power.

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        Yea, an actually democratic system needs to be implemented first! And we would solve that too via that step, very few democrats would survive if an actual choice were to be given to the people!

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      Both sides being the Right and Center-Right.

      Of course the Left has no room at the table for any of this.

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      Only because you didn’t vote for them! If you had voted dir them they would have behaved totally differently!!1!

      Unlike all the other times you did vote for themand they did this exact same shit. this one’s different, don’t be such a child. If you don’t fall in line and lick the boot of the liberal co-conspirators, it will be entirely your fault when ice shows up to take you to the camps.

      Edit: also mine because i snitched on you. But that’s actually your fault too; HOA rules say a family living in your attic is not allowed. You need to stop justifying your rule breaking with ‘fighting fascism’.