I’m interested to see how this project turns out.
Honestly, Adobe is is one of two main reasons I have not had success switching (back) to Linux. The secret sauce with Adobe Lightroom (Classic and CC) is the ability to take pics from any device (phone, old DSLR w/manual imports, downloads) and edit from my phone, or desktop seamlessly regardless of source, all in same catalogue, with non-destructive edits sync’d bidirectionally. I also get all originals sync’d tho main computer to merge in with my overall backup strategy. None of the open source offerings have this, though I keep checking in on it every few years. I’m sure Darktable is great - it may even be better than LR, but without the easy interoperability/synchronization, it’s not viable in my situation. I would not expect a solution like this to be free. I’m happy to pay for it. If Adobe offered real Linux compatibility, I’d pay for it in a heartbeat (and would gladly switch to a different company if it existed).
For video other graphic stuff, I can live with the silos and happily run Shotcut (or KDENLive) and Krita.
If it wasn’t for my other windows dependency, I’d switch and get by with running Lightroom virtually, and put up with the loss of other applications/features (on the Linux host) that I can live without.
(My other dependency is NI Maschine (music production). The hardware - and the feature set I’ve paid for and use simply won’t run on Linux. I briefly considered running it virtually in Windows but ended up giving my head a shake because of the Rube Goldberg machine I’d end up making to have anywhere close to the functionality I have now).
I’d be thrilled to switch back to Linux (I used it for years as a daily driver).
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So all they have is a boilerplate script that doesn’t do anything yet?
I’d rather see this as a collaborative effort between upstream rather than a “layer” of scripts, not to mention their “phase 3” is forking upstream which we really don’t need.
I’d rather see this project’s team simply working with upstream and sending PRs / patches.
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Am only one person :), but if anybody is interested in helping, I would love that, I can easily add you to be a member.
so all they have is a boilerplate script that doesn’t do anything yet?
Fair, I wrote that quickly as a starting point.
I’d rather see this project’s team simply working with upstream and sending PRs / patches.
Noted, am still thinking on the best way to approach this “interoperability” problem.
I love your passion but I think you published on GitHub a little too soon. Rather than pitch solutions, keep it to the problem space definition for now.
Then, reach out to the upstream developers and see what their thoughts are and how you can contribute. I’m sure there is definitely space for a interoperability library that makes it easy for any creative FOSS app to integrate and enter into this open ecosystem concept but rather than inventing it for upstream, you should invent it with upstream.
Good luck and stay this passionate - the FOSS community needs people like you!
I nominate Kdenlive as the open Premiere alternative.
Kdenlive is great.
I love Kdenlive, though it’s always worth keeping an eye on Openshot, Olive, Shotcut etc.
Is there any scope to allow the interoperability to work with multiple software on each end (i.e. Gimp or Krita with Kdenlive or Olive) - or does it complicate things too much?
Yes, that’s the goal, am pretty sure that it’s a O(n)² problem though so it’s definitely a challenge.
Github doesn’t support Org footnotes, it seems.
Reproducible scripts are scripts using Nix so that we don’t have the problem of “It works in my machine”
Ok, no, thanks. This should work on all distributions with their package managers instead of needing a separate layer. The approach to first package it and then write addons is a bit weird.
You can make Deb and rpm from nix packages supposedly.
https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Nixpkgs/Building_RPM_DEB_with_nixpkgs
Sticking to reproduceable builds also makes sense for development and troubleshooting, less variables to run down.
That’s the thing with Nix: It works on all the distros.
Distros could of course also package it themselves (nothing preventing them from doing that) but having a baseline in Nix that you can point to makes the distro’s job easier here aswell. If it works via Nix but doesn’t in xyz distro’s package, you know where the problem lies.
That’s the thing with Nix: It works on all the distros.
… as long as you install Nix.
You could say the same about Docker, Flatpak, AppImage or even Snap. Nix is nothing special in that regard.
Nix is nothing special in that regard.
Well, with the exception that all of those tools use userns to ship almost a full userspace tree while Nix uses no containerisation whatsoever to do its job.
