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Please guys, just vote progressives in and tax the rich. The AFD, like the CDU, will only make this country worse for everyone but the rich.
Immigrants aren’t the ones buying your houses, failing to give you raises, and putting Germany in debt. It’s the rich.
But the rich use immigrants to increase demand for housing and to increase competition for jobs.
They have also used their media to make the AfD known. Bad news are good news. They want the fight between the extreme right and everybody else so that progressive parties don’t tax them out if power.
People need control of the media first. Otherwise elections come out as the rich want. Every day there are crimes and crimes committed by foreigners. Depending on how much they are reported, people will vote AfD and CxU.
Meanwhile, it’s still a good idea to not vote for AfD.
For all the europeans cheering on the downfall of the US: If the United States truly fails, the EU will have 20-30 years, tops.
At this point, the best-case scenario for Europe is to end up like Japan, with an overaged population, a systemic disdain for immigrants and overall total stagnation. But it could swing the US way, too. As of now, it seems to be getting the worst of both worlds.
Well, fuck.
Thanks to conservative parties (CDU/CSU) taking up their topics instead of stomping on them.
This will not be fun
Yes, but we must not forget that foreign influence by autocratic states also plays a decisive role.
Even TikTok is run by the US. It’s already deception that Russia is controlling the election. They try to, but only to the point that the US needs for everybody to be worried.
Liberal parties too.
Long time ago I took a stance with family and friends: if you vote for any far-right party, don’t call me again because clearly we don’t share common human values.
I haven’t been hearing from a few people for a while and I think it was an eye opener for others.
Germany is a already a nazi state. The elections are just lagging. If the majority were really against Nazis, these fucks wouldn’t even be in parliament, but the majority is just silently OK with it because they either don’t vote or vote for AfD-lite.
Not only the average voter is OK with the narrative, the editor of newpapers like DW are too:
After the AfD, which is classified as partly right-wing extremist, became the strongest force in the city of 265,000 inhabitants with 24.7% of votes in the federal elections in February, it is now hoping for more success deep in western Germany.
They have been classified right-wing, not “partly”.
Partly right-wing extremist refers to the constitutional protection office’s assessment.
The AfD is classfied as a suspected case of far right extremism. This is the 2nd of three classifications, the last one is “confirmed right-wing extremist”. To be classified as a suspected case, there must be indications of right-wing extremism.
Therefore, the assessment “partially right-wing extremism” is factually correct. The AfD is not yet classified fully (or confirmed) right-wing extremist. That assessment must first be reviewed and confirmed by a judge since the AfD is currently suing against it.
I read that more like partly qualifies the extremist, they are fully right wing. What exactly is an extremist partly-right, or partly-left for that matter?
The “partly” refers to the AfD, not their ideology. Parts of the AfD are “only” far-right, parts are neonazi. The whole party is thus partly extremist right.
Right, not partly-right extremist, partly right-extremist
I think by partly right wing they meant the CDU, which adopted some stances of the AFD while still trying to appeal to the center. And they are for some reason the biggest party where the AFD isn’t.
Local elections are different, because many actually know the candidates personally, lower voter turn up, the groups run on local issues and difference to the party on a federal level grow the smaller you go. For example there was a lot of media attention on Meißen in the state of Saxony getting an AfD mayor. The federal results would have made that fairly obvious, but in the end the AfD candidate lost with an 18% margin.
This is also true the other way around. Local results do not translate into state or federal results.
VOX has done pretty much nothing after winning a good amount of local elections. AfD will be the same
It is the trend among far right parties across Europe. They are all complain but once actually in government, they are useless. Hopefully it stays that way and none of them become as efficient as the fascists of the past.
Triggering infighting in the parties would be a good way to waste their time
I’ll say it again, the globalist Eu are out of touch with common citizens and are still pushing for open borders based on 75 year old UN statutes. The growing right flank has been ignored successfully for decades but will soon be too big to isolate. That’s when we follow the US example and see actual strongmen come to power (instead of being marginalized). Soon…
still pushing for open borders
Have you recently tried to cross a border in Europe? I feel like you are out of touch with common reality.
The growing right flank has been ignored successfully
Yep, they were so successfully ignored, that their positions from a few years ago are mainstream positions now and get implemented all across the Union. Such ignore, much wow.
Shut the fuck up. I don’t want to live in a Europe without open borders. I’m already fucking annoyed that I have to go through border controls when entering and coming back from Denmark. It’s fucking bullshit. Borders will not stop refugees, even if they were the problem. Fuck you for trying to appease the brainwashed masses, you fucking dick. Trying to take away my freedom, you dumb asshole.
Looks like you might have been frustrated in a traffic jam at the border? I looked up what the border checks effect has been, in this article from February: “Since the reintroduction of border controls in September 2024, Germany has detected around 80,000 irregular entries. Additionally, over 1,900 people smugglers were arrested, and nearly 47,000 individuals were denied entry due to invalid travel documents.”
You’re citing the wrong numbers:
Irregular migration to Germany is currently continuing to decline. Federal Police figures show that while almost 130,000 illegal entries were recorded in 2023, the number FELL to just over 80,000 in 2024—a decrease of more than a third. The downward trend has continued so far this year. Projected to the full year of 2025, the figures would fall to the lowest level since 2021.
This decline is NOT due to border controls. It roots in different situations in the countries the people come from.
What border controls in Germany really did:
Within the first seven days of the new controls, the federal police turned back 739 people at the border. In the second week, there were 1,676 rejections, including 123 asylum applications, of which 87 were rejected. This is according to figures from the Federal Ministry of the Interior.
Even with increased border controls, only a fraction of migration movements are recorded. While “numbers are produced,” the survey is both opaque and selective, and therefore of limited significance.
Border controls cost much, but are widely ineffective. Because most illegals don’t use the few main border crossings that can be controlled.
https://www.zdfheute.de/politik/deutschland/grenzkontrollen-bilanz-migration-100.html
How will countries address the declining population of Europe, and climate change which disproportionately affects much of the world’s lower income population and drives migration because of decreased land productivity and economic activity?
Robots and AI. Cruel times are coming.
I’m for singularity. We, or the robots alone, might even be better at solving climate change.
