I would also like a peaceful national divorce. Those of us who prefer intellectualism and advancement get one half, and the knuckledragging neanderthals whose only accomplishment in life is being born white get the other half
how quickly will BRICS snuggle up to the greater Texas petro state? What is their next move? Mutual defense pact? Plus with aligned states cutting the two coasts apart up through Idaho, there are really two seperate ‘liberal’ nations, not one. Oh, and California has the largest population of republicans outside of Texas so, not a lot of support. The US would be carved up and devoured in 2-3 years. It would no longer be a world player. That is already clearly the goal and it is working. I dont know why people want to accelerate this rather than attempt to reverse it.
Because the federal government as it exists is too far gone. The only way to reverse it is a people’s revolution, which will lead to great loss of lives. Its better to split amicably.
Well, I’m Canadian, and America has been threatening my country’s sovereignty lately. I’d rather they just go back to being relatively sane again but if that’s not in the cards then splitting America up into more manageable pieces is an adequate fallback I suppose.
Those pieces wouldn’t be superpowers. They’d just be regular countries like everyone else. Is that so terrible?
I’m surprised how bad the neighborhood is with America being one big piece. I think chunking it up would make things better for us in the long run, especially considering that the relatively “saner” chunks would act as somewhat of a buffer between us and the total froot-loops down south.
As I said, there are other solutions I’d rather see happen. But if the US is going to stay as it is now then by all means break it up, that’s better than having it be one giant hostile nation.
You really think so? I know ‘america bad’ and all, but the US did do a lot of good in the world as well. I think it is evidenced by all the harm the Trump administration is doing by illegally decimating congressional approved programs abroad.
Lets face it, if the US falls, the EU is going to be scared shitless, it will be largely ineffective in the global arena. That leaves china and Russia to swing their hammers on anything they want, and they want a lot. They need a lot.
I think that the USA is lost already.
Yeah it is big but only being able to trust it 4 years at a time, makes it a very unstable allied.
The world needs trust and stability and I think that the USA has shown that the world can’t expect that of it. This is not about Trump. Its about the country as a whole, its population and the power that corporations and politicians have acquired
We had many years of continuity, just like any other normal nation who has free elections and policy shifts. We are in a new paradigm now. I agree the shift really started with Citizens United and the corporate grab for power (politicians are just owned by the corpos). That can be reversed but it is not going to be easy. Falling into sects just cedes power to the corpo masters.
This paradigm has been building for a long time. Bush II was a quarter century ago now and he was already sending the US off to invade countries arbitrarily to seize their resources back then.
I don’t think the US is going to pull back from this paradigm quickly. It’s a generational process at best. So as an outsider who is under threat from the US I’m fine with quicker solutions to diminishing their power if that’s what it comes to.
I would also like a peaceful national divorce. Those of us who prefer intellectualism and advancement get one half, and the knuckledragging neanderthals whose only accomplishment in life is being born white get the other half
And then our states can finally stop paying for their states to drag us back to the dark ages.
That money can go towards funding migration for whoever wants to move to the other half
Unless they are racists dipshits that comes only for money
A house divided cannot stand
What we have now is a house divided, and correct, its falling apart. This hypothetical scenario would be two houses.
One half can stand just fine. It has the economy and progressive politics to do so.
The other half can rot and die. It only serves as a ball and chain.
I wouldn’t really call it standing right now
Two separate united houses can stand, though.
Well, one of them can. Based on how their economies seem to do, the other one’s going to be in trouble pretty quickly.
how quickly will BRICS snuggle up to the greater Texas petro state? What is their next move? Mutual defense pact? Plus with aligned states cutting the two coasts apart up through Idaho, there are really two seperate ‘liberal’ nations, not one. Oh, and California has the largest population of republicans outside of Texas so, not a lot of support. The US would be carved up and devoured in 2-3 years. It would no longer be a world player. That is already clearly the goal and it is working. I dont know why people want to accelerate this rather than attempt to reverse it.
Because the federal government as it exists is too far gone. The only way to reverse it is a people’s revolution, which will lead to great loss of lives. Its better to split amicably.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_of_the_Golden_Circle
They’ll try to finally get the Golden Circle
Well, I’m Canadian, and America has been threatening my country’s sovereignty lately. I’d rather they just go back to being relatively sane again but if that’s not in the cards then splitting America up into more manageable pieces is an adequate fallback I suppose.
Those pieces wouldn’t be superpowers. They’d just be regular countries like everyone else. Is that so terrible?
I think you would be surprised how bad the neighborhood would get with the US broken up into waring factions.
I’m surprised how bad the neighborhood is with America being one big piece. I think chunking it up would make things better for us in the long run, especially considering that the relatively “saner” chunks would act as somewhat of a buffer between us and the total froot-loops down south.
As I said, there are other solutions I’d rather see happen. But if the US is going to stay as it is now then by all means break it up, that’s better than having it be one giant hostile nation.
Maybe that would be the best way out of this for the rest of the world though
You really think so? I know ‘america bad’ and all, but the US did do a lot of good in the world as well. I think it is evidenced by all the harm the Trump administration is doing by illegally decimating congressional approved programs abroad.
Lets face it, if the US falls, the EU is going to be scared shitless, it will be largely ineffective in the global arena. That leaves china and Russia to swing their hammers on anything they want, and they want a lot. They need a lot.
I think that the USA is lost already. Yeah it is big but only being able to trust it 4 years at a time, makes it a very unstable allied.
The world needs trust and stability and I think that the USA has shown that the world can’t expect that of it. This is not about Trump. Its about the country as a whole, its population and the power that corporations and politicians have acquired
We had many years of continuity, just like any other normal nation who has free elections and policy shifts. We are in a new paradigm now. I agree the shift really started with Citizens United and the corporate grab for power (politicians are just owned by the corpos). That can be reversed but it is not going to be easy. Falling into sects just cedes power to the corpo masters.
This paradigm has been building for a long time. Bush II was a quarter century ago now and he was already sending the US off to invade countries arbitrarily to seize their resources back then.
I don’t think the US is going to pull back from this paradigm quickly. It’s a generational process at best. So as an outsider who is under threat from the US I’m fine with quicker solutions to diminishing their power if that’s what it comes to.