In a video statement, Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu called the growing MAGA conspiracy a ‘monstrous big lie.’

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    6 hours ago

    Watching Israel cosy up to the far right is like watching someone free themselves from a bear trap, reset it, and start running straight at it again

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    12 hours ago

    Somehow this makes me suspicious when previously I had no thoughts on it lmao

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    15 hours ago

    He left behind a wife and two kids. That’s how we know Israel didn’t do it.

    Stolen from here

    BTW, Netanyahu having to deal with actual antisemites peddling conspiracy theories sounds a lot like the boy who cried wolf

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      13 hours ago

      Being against isreal is not bigotry so save your actual bias for someone that can be trusted to be honest abput it.

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        6 hours ago

        Being anti-Israel is not the same as antisemitism, but I believe the previous comment was referring to the actual Nazis who were spreading the Israel-Kirk theory.

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          Israelis are a type of actual nazi and not a legitimate source of whom are nazis.

          They are openly aligned with literal classic nazis and all the new kinds. Of course they would lie about the motive of anyone accusing them.

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          He turned against them and lately dared to speak out on their power over the US and even their genocide.
          This while at first he was made big with zionist money and now refused further payment.
          He got a lot of criticism from even worse people than himself, like Fuentes and rich zionists demanding he fall back in line.

          That is not “Nazis who were spreading the Israel-Kirk theory” but simple facts

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      16 hours ago

      I hope that people aren’t really taking this too seriously as a reason to suspect Israel. There was a LOT of chatter saying that they killed him, by the Nazis of course. A dominant narrative on /pol/ is basically that Kirk got in bed with the Jews and now he’s paid the price for trusting them.

      From the standpoint of your average left-leaning person, Israel making a statement like this seems completely out of the blue and makes them look really guilty. But there’s a whole demographic of people who really think that they did it. I don’t think it’s too unreasonable that they would make a statement about it. And let me be clear. I absolutely hate Israel with all my heart. But there are plenty of events in this world that they are not responsible for.

      More importantly, this seems dangerously close to reasoning like: “You wouldn’t defend yourself against these accusations unless they were actually true!” Which is definitely not a good bar to set.

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        A dominant narrative on /pol/ is basically that Kirk got in bed with the Jews and now he’s paid the price for trusting them.

        Do things ever go any other way over there? 🙄

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          He did get in bed with them (verifiable TPUSA funding money), as most extreme-right do.
          Problem is he turned on them recent months speaking out against their influence over the US and even the genocide.
          That’s a no no, they didn’t take it well and were pretty pissed.

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            15 hours ago

            Like immigrants! Or black people! Or trans people!

            I miss the days when 4chan acted as the fucking quarantine for most of the nazi bullshit on the internet.

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        There’s a separate conspiracy mostly on Instagram that asserts he was wearing a titanium breastplate and the shooting was meant to be staged like Trump’s, but the bullet accidentally ricocheted off the breastplate.

        I doubt it tbh but who knows. We have extremely unreliable evidence, eg the text messages that seem manufacturered.

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        I was aware of the theory. It’s sketchy though that they feel the need to say they did something that should be obvious they didn’t. Unless they know they are guilty and feel the need to defend them selves.

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          I suppose. But if hundreds of people started accusing you of being a secret space alien, you might one day feel the urge to say “listen everyone, I am not an alien, I am a human”. It’s pretty messed up if people hear you say that and go “hmmm exactly what an alien would say tbh”

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    18 hours ago

    Holy shit, they killed Charlie Kirk??!

    I never even considered Israel could be responsible. Very nice of Netanyahu to clear that up.

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    24 hours ago

    Makes sense, they’re reaching the point where it’s more efficient to list the people they haven’t killed.

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    I didn’t think they had anything to do with it until this.

    Netanyahu made a couple of social media posts about it when it happened, but there’s now not really another sensible reason why the PM of a random country cares about an American podcaster so much.

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        The more the Netanyahu reacts to this the more he shows where his head is at.

        The PM of a different country is placing a lot of importance on what was before, just seen as an American podcaster by the mainstream.

        This coupled with his “if I go down the global right goes down with me” post he made last week just makes it even more sus IMO

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    20 hours ago

    well coming from such a genuine stand up kind of guy who never does evil things. no sir. yeah I can totally trust this is true.