I get it, I absolutely respect someone wanting to be safe, but i think it would also absolutely ruin the date for me. I just can’t really interact the same way in a group as I do one on one. Either that, or I’d end upv mirroring both of them simultaneously and it would end up in a throuple.
I respect it, but i don’t get it, and it would be a complete deal breaker for me. What do you think a person on a date in a public place is gonna do to you?
right, this is basically saying “i don’t trust you not to spike my drink, take me to a second location, and rape me”
and maybe you shouldn’t be online dating at all if that’s where you start out from
But even then, no one needs to ask you out on a date to do that. Any time you go out in public by yourself that could happen just as easily. If you’re that unreasonably fearful then i don’t want to spend time with you
throuple goals!
throuple
Threesome. Corrected for you.
Nope. Throuple is dating, threesome is a one-time thing. Like if my wife and I have a girlfriend, we would be a throuple. And if we all sleep together, it would be a threesome. But saying “throuple=threesome” is like saying “couple=sex” when the two describe fundamentally different things. One is the relationship between people, and the other is just a physical act.
Nice condescending attitude though.
And here I thought OP just misspelled trouble.
Prepare for trouble!
And make it throuple!
throuple : threesome :: couple : hook-up
is this valid C code?
It could be valid C++ code within a function, if not for the last colon which isn’t a unary nor binary operator
nope, it’s the verbal analogy puzzle format used by tests like the SAT.
This is very common in Asia. The first few (not) dates they bring friends and you can too. Eventually, she gives an indication that she wants to do something alone with you and that’s when the real dates begin.
You make a good point, but considering that the conversation is in English I don’t think you’d be too far out of the pale to assume that this is not in Asia, and in most English-speaking countries it’s not common to go on group dates before going on individual dates.
It does happen, and quite a bit, but not to the point where it’s common, I would say it’s at the very most uncommon.
This is the way.
I mean we have those too, they’re called double dates. Would have been less awkward if the lady here asked for one of those.
Double dates aware there is two couples. This sounds more like she wants to bring her friend on to make her feel more comfortable on a first date.
If you wanna be my lover…
Guy friends in asian also hold hands and hang on each others arms. Not really something you see in the west
Arranged marriage is also common in Asia
This reeks of casual bigotry you should perhaps analyze the thought patterns that lead you to writing this.
What an unprovoked comment.
Wherever you live, there are also many cultural issues that are equally unrelated to what I said.
If you bring a friend, they better be down for a 3 way if things go well. The only time this hapoened to me, was when two girls invited me to a 3way and then one of them chickened out, then got mad that I still fucked her friend. Like… That was the entire reason I was there!
She got mad because you fucked the wrong friend lol
She should have fucked him first then.
Everybody knows that in relationships it is first come first served.
First come, first served cum
Oddly disturbing
Oddly?
This tracks.
Did the one that chickened out at least watch you fuck the other one?
I had a girl do that on our first date. She was feeling insecure because she never dated online before. Once she felt comfortable with me, her friends left.
This is what grinds my gears. At no point (if this is real) did she ask them to pay for the friend. But because of their own misogyny, they’re being an ass. And that’s not even getting into the probability that his is ALL ragebait to play off misogyny for engagement. People getting pissed off making shit up in their head, then making others suffer for it.
Like the guy defenitely comes off as a dick but also if you check out conventional social media you will see guys who talk about being expected to pay for not just the girl but also their friend, and you will see girls talk about how if she brings a friend for protection then the guy should pay for the friend too.
So many variables exist that we don’t know but for some people there an expectation that if a girl brings a friend the guy needs to pay for both and I wouldn’t default that to just misogyny
I had girls bring a friend with them when I asked them out on a date and it didn’t even occur to me that I would pay for them. But also I wouldn’t expect the friend to hang around the entire time either, once it turned out I wasn’t trying to hurt anyone they generally went away.
I mean but then that’s social media. Again, like this post, how many guys posting are posting made up bullshit for engagement? How many girls are giving “tips,” again for engagement? None of this is guaranteed to be real. The data stands, however: Per NBC polling, 44% of people think whoever makes more should pay, regardless of gender. 36% think it should be split, regardless of any factors. Only 20%, half of any other response, thinks it should be the one who asked (which is usually in straight relationships the man). I’m sorry, but all of this is at best a shitty date, and yet is at worst fuel for the fucking mgtow incel crowd.
Try and remember when you read this type of stuff that these people are the minority. These stories are not the norm and the much huger proportion of people going on dates that are more or less normal are not reporting their experiences because there’s nothing notable really about them.
I’m not saying that is the norm but more so that it may not be just internal misogyny that causes the poster to reach their conclusion
Yes he was being a bit rude but it is surprisingly common for women to expect the men to pay for their friends and it is not at all unreasonable for him to put his foot down early and refuse before she even asks.
Being a little rude to a woman is not misogyny.
Nowhere in the screenshot does she ever say she expected the guy to pay for her friend.
He’s getting mad about a made-up situation in his head. How do you actually deal with someone who’s mad about something that hasn’t happened.
The situation OP predicted wasn’t the one where she asks up front.
“Its surprisingly common” OK buddy. Also yes, if you have a misogynistic belief about women, and then act on that belief, then it becomes misogynistic. Following a black person around a store isn’t racist; doing so because you think their a thief makes it so.
It’s cool that you haven’t been online dating lately and all but your ignorance of trends is not my problem.
Yes that situation would make you racist, but that’s also not even remotely comparable in any way so it’s pointless to bring up. Go touch grass.
Your right! I don’t have to, I have a wife and kid. The first of whom I met, you guessed it, online dating almost a decade ago, when this old-ass misogynistic meme was made. I guess that’s the difference between us: You deal with online dating, I actually talk to and love a real woman. Sucks to suck I guess.
She NEVER said that she didn’t expect him to pay, she just ignored it, and kept justifying why it was okay to bring her friend. She fully expected him to pay for dinner and drinks for both.
These girls are predators, and they tried to treat him like a chump, and people are pissed because he showed some self-respect.
These girls are predators, and they tried to treat him like a chump
You’ve been successfully baited by a fake screenshot and are displaying misogyny.
It’s not misogyny to recognize and acknowledge that women can be bad people, just like men can be. In fact, recognizing that women are just regular people, is the opposite of misogyny.
I don’t think all women are perfect (and never said such), but this post is 100% a fake screenshot that’s misogynistic rage bait.
Perfect. That’s when you strike
I can almost understand her reaction considering it was an online dating thing
I had a girl ask if it was OK to bring a friend once, I said it was fine. She ended up coming alone anyway.
You showed a green flag by saying yes, so she probably felt safe enough.
Or a serial killer that was only interested in double kills
Everyone loves mind games :3
Its not really a mind game IMO, if he had said no she might’ve still gone with a friend. It’s not a test it’s literally just wanting a clue re safety.
Have you considered fearing all men isn’t a healthy way for an adult to live? And how is that level of prejudice shows through this action?
Adults can go on a date in public by themselves. There are some men who will be hurt but still tolerant, and there will be some that find it offensive.
I had a girl bring a guy friend along on our first date without giving me a heads up for the same reason. I was like, ok that’s a little weird but whatever. I’m certainly not going to give someone shit for doing something that makes them feel comfortable. Ended up chatting it up with the guy friend who turned out to be super cool.
So me and the girl end up seriously dating after a while and she later tells me that she spent most of our first date trying to subtly get her friend to leave so that she could spend more time with me.
Ok thats nice
Lol there’s got to be a term that’s the inverse of cockblocking. Maybe like cockenabling for something.
Wingman is the term you’re looking for.
But in my date’s opinion, he was clam jamming her!
I’m cool with someone deciding to do this.
I mean, I’ll decide not to go on the date, but that you do you.
Your lack of ability to judge my character leading up to the date, and the general sense of paranoia leading to a decision like this, aren’t qualities I’m looking for in a partner.
Neither is starting things from a place of outright suspicion. Like. I’m not judging. I just have zero interest.
Neither is starting things from a place of outright suspicion.
I would understand it if they are going to someplace private, like the apartment or a dark alley at midnight, but who the hell goes to those places on a first date? I’m not freaking out about a guy asking me to a coffee date at 1000 hours in the middle of a city on a saturday.
They might’ve had one (or several) bad experiences and this is a trauma response, but even in that case, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to say “yeah sure they’ll pay their own way, I just feel safer if we have a second pair of eyes I trust in the restaurant/cafe/etc with us”. Like, you don’t gotta be at the table, but I kinda get it for the first date or two being “hey I trust this person, mind if they tag along and grab a drink at the bar to be my watchman or whatever”.
You dont even have to ask. Friend can just sit at the bar, or they can bring a second person and just be at a different table. If this is a trauma response, there are ways to make in nonintrusive. Plus, if the other person doesnt know you brought back up, theyre going to be more themselves, and youll see if theyre a sleeze or not sooner. Its not hard to pretend to not be a sleeze while youre being watched then turn it around immediately when youre not.
That’s a personal issue that an individual needs to work out before dating then.
Mature people don’t need to bring a babysitter for their date.
Amen
First dates are Dutch. Hard stop.
Anything else is an escort, and at least double means something with them.
You bring your friend, fine, but you or they pay for their meal and yours.
I’m here to see if we match, not serve as a stopgap in the apts food budget.
Going to eat as a first date is bad anyways. Should do something where you are a not forced to sit in front of each other for a fixed amount of time. Why not go for a walk in a park, take a coffee or other things that are more “open”.
Dutch?
Swamp Germans
Means you pay for your own meal. Not sure why it where but probably some racist thing, I assume
More of a cultural thing, I think. From what I’ve gathered from a friend that lives in the Netherlands the dutch are pretty serious about paying for their own meals and getting people to pay for theirs. I even remember seeing a sketch made by some dutch people where one gives a bite of their sandwich to a coworker or something and then they tell the coworker that they’re owed x amount for it.
I’ve heard it all my life. I just assumed the Dutch were cheap, and won’t pay for anyone else but themselves.
it’s not about race, but nation. it’s probably xenophobic
“Can I bring a friend?”
“Um, I’d rather they stayed home. And well, I didn’t want to say anything earlier, but I kind of wanted to stay home, too. You have fun though!”
good answer
Is it still normalized that the man should pay the date?
What year is it? 1825?
A lot of women consider it a deal breaker to this day
I call those women… never. Had a girl turn up with a friend, everyone paid for their own drinks. And this was in the early 00s.
If I remember correctly (it’s been over 16 years), my wife suggested separate checks the first time, and I told her I’d pay this time and she could get the next one if she wanted to go out again.
I think I still ended up paying for the next one (or separate checks), but that wasn’t a cultural norm thing, I just get uncomfortable with other people paying for me.
My current fiance said she almost didn’t want to go on a second date with me because I wanted to go Dutch on our first date. She still tells me to this day that I’m lucky I was cute.
what does go dutch mean
Butt stuff
???
Sorry, was funny to me at the time! It’s splitting the bill
Date pays for their stuff, you pay for your own. Basically, separate tabs.
To be clear, I would have paid if she had asked me to at the time. When the bill came for the food, I asked if she wanted separate or together, but my phrasing made it sound like I wanted to split it and she said that was fine. Whoops.
Don’t worry, she’s making up for lost time. I pay for almost everything when we go out now 😅
Humans are weird. I’m glad we penguins aren’t as complicated.
This is an outdated expectation, although it could also be considered respectful on a date.
I’ve heard that in restaurants in the USA you often give your credit card and they scan it and return it because they don’t have portable terminals. I’ve also heard that it’s often returned to the man regardless of name on card / who gave it. Both of these seem very outdated.
Smart servers just put the check and the card between the people if it’s not obvious who’s paying. I’m a great test case for this because my spouse and I both happen to have first names that could belong to a man or a woman.
It’s pretty much random which one of us pays because we pool our money anyway.Often they drop the bill in the little book and we stick the card in the end of it and put it back on the end of the table, they come by, run the card and then come back….
you can see the fear in their eyes sometimes, like “oh shit. This could be either one of them… 50/50 chance I annoy the one who’s writing the tip”.
We’ve both worked service industry so we don’t care at all and tip well either way but it’s pretty funny to see the realization sometimes.
Oh and, if it’s two people on a date (not a boring old married couple like us eating dinner) and there’s only one bill… 9/10 it’s the guy paying.
If i invite someone out to dinner I pay. If someone invites me out to dinner I expect them to pay. However, I think in general in the US most men and women expect the man to pay.
If i invite someone out to dinner I pay. If someone invites me out to dinner I expect them to pay.
expect the man to pay
…they’re the same picture. Seriously, given the general dynamics of how straight dating actually ends up working most of the time IRL, these are basically equivalent statements, because the man is also generally expected to be the one to do the asking.
If it were the girl shouldn’t have any choice.
Now they have things called rights and stuff
I’d be up for a few dates where the girl brings her friends, as long as she makes it clear beforehand that they’re coming. But not a last minute “by the way, my friends are coming.”
I don’t mind meeting more new people.
It wouldn’t bother me if somebody wanted to bring a friend on a date. However, I would communicate that it would change the dynamic into a “hangout” over a traditional “date” for me. The difference being that a date carries romantic intent and a hangout is for the sake of connecting with others without romantic expectations. Also, a hangout means everybody pays for themselves.
This takes the pressure off by lowering the stakes since it’s now just a casual hangout between peers. It also has the benefit of making the third not feel excluded as a third wheel but a welcome part of the group.
Last time a chick brought a friend with her, I got on better with the friend… And I went home with the friend. Pro tip, if youre bringing a friend. Dont make it a friend thats better to talk to than you are.
I say get it while you can, you don’t turn your back on love, no no no. -Janis Joplin
Or do.
I’ve been dating most of my life and never once had a woman ask to bring a friend and I am a very large man. Also, I feel like 1st dates are implied dutch unless someone offers to pay. I’ve never discussed who will pay before a date in my life. I don’t know how he would even think he’d be paying for the friend too. It wouldn’t even cross my mind as something a woman would assume a date was expected to do. If a woman expected that at check time, I would be pretty surprised. Maybe I’m just old, but this whole interaction feels weird.
I’ve never discussed who will pay before a date in my life
Either this person in incredibly tactless or this is some kind of incel meme shitpost.
Either way, whomever is passing it around seems to have a bone to pick.
It wouldn’t even cross my mind as something a woman would assume a date was expected to do.
Idk, really depends on the dynamic between them all. If they’re broke college kids and he’s an older person with a stable job and surplus cash? If he’s picking the restaurant to impress her, knowing she can’t afford it? If he already offered up thread in order to entice her out?
But that makes the “date” feel more like a Sugar Baby relationship than a proper date. Also might explain why she feels the need to bring a friend.
Yeah, I have never had any desire to date a woman I had to pay for everything to impress. I am happy to pay if I know their financial situation is sketchy, but I would offer that. I don’t do sugar daddy shit. I prefer women with better motives in dating.
There’s a non insignificant amount of women dating only for free meals, and a lot of them expect men to pay for any number of friends. A lot of guys have opted for lower cost or zero cost first dates, like walks to screen for this.
Anyone afraid to go to an agreed meeting in a public place NEEDING a friend along is beyond weird
The friend isn’t there for when the date is in the public space. The friend is there for after to ensure the girl gets home safe.
Wtf. No. They are just scared.
I think the implied weirdness is that, if you’re scared, why even agree to the date in the first place?
This happened to me, but we all went back to my apartment and played Smash Bros. I did not get laid and I have no regrets.
Man, I think I’d prefer that outcome. Getting laid is easy compared to finding fun people to game with
