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    Don’t make celebrity performers your idols, folks. They’re mostly psychologically damaged, amoral, backstabbing, money grubbing narcissists.

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      People: Billionaires are the problem

      Also people: OMG Taylor Swift’s new album just dropped! Let’s go buy 3 different versions of it

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        You don’t get it, she’s a good billionaire because she’s a girl and owns her music. Who cares that she takes a private jet flight for what could be an hour long drive - she could never fly economy due her popularity!

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      I don’t disagree with you, but this is isn’t exactly “idol” level expectations, either. “Not selling out to horrific regimes” is basic decency I’d expect of everyone, not just those I look up to. Most of the names I see here make sense, but there are a few I expected to be better than this.

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      Comedians are probably the most disingenuous ones too, as idols. thier job is to Joke, and you know personally they are either what they joke about(they become the jokes themselves this default for right winger comedians they become thier own jokes, or doing the opposite of what they are joking.

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    ‘They’re paying me enough to look the other way’

    That is at least an honest approach instead of “We’ll change things over there with our comedy”.

    Just stfu next time it’s about politics (hint: they won’t).

    The only guy that is surprising for me is Bill Burr. Not exactly financially hanging on by a thread but still selling out like that.

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      Same, very surprised by Bill Burr and that it wasn’t a bit for him to tell the Saudis some hard truths either.

      Instead, he gives us a weak-ass “they are the same as us” response because they have the same crappy fast-food…

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    14 days ago

    We really got the worst era of comedy. Bunch of court jesters dancing for a king while the city burns

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      American comedy is become irredeemably lame. Though Jimmy Carr is on the list there too but at least him being a spineless whore is kinda his schtick

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        They were funded by these large groups and that isn’t talked about enough. It wasn’t just SA blood money they chased. They took it from hertiage foudation and other conservative groups. Most probably didn’t even realize they were doing it. They’d just get booked through agents. It just happened that these agents were working with groups who probably paid for personality profiles of the lamest comedians who could benefit their cause if they were actually popular.

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        There are definitely exceptions. All of the comics mentioned here are people who peaked a decade or more ago, and most of them are extremely out of touch. There are a lot of more contemporary comics who are doing a great job. I don’t see Josh Johnson or Ashley Gavin or Gianmarco Soresi or like the people who on Dropout showing up to something like this. There’s a whole generation of great comics, a lot of them coming out of UCB, who are funnier, wittier, and wiser than any of these clowns.

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    14 days ago

    Inb4 they whine in their next comedy specials that they’re ‘being cancel cultured again by Gen Z’ and this time its ‘just for working’.

    Cue laughs from conservatives.

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    15 days ago

    "…He did not address the criticism directly, but he did suggest he was happy to forget 9/11 for the right price: “I just know I get the routing, and then I see the number, and I go, ‘I’ll go.’” "

    Apparently $375,000 is enough for Pete Davidson to piss on his fathers memory

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      I guess for most people it would be. Certainly I’d be like “sorry dad but I can buy a house an have my future be much more secure” if my kid did the same I’d like to think I’d understand as well…but this is for normal people. To these very well known and well off comedians is 375k that much? It’s like the equivalent of me getting like 5k which I’m not sure I would betray my morals for. Having said that nobody’s offering me 5k to!

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        Yeah, that makes sense, except that Pete Davidson is a millionaire who owns a house on Staten Island. He lives in a loft in Brooklyn that costs 30k/month

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    Jim Jefferies disappeared from the Riyadh festival lineup after he said on Theo Von’s podcast: ‘One reporter was killed by the [Saudi] government – unfortunate, but not a fucking hill that I’m gonna die on.’

    What a fucking loser. He threw his soul away AND lost the payday. Lose-lose fucking loser.

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      The rest is even more cringy

      “arguing it is for the greater good that “freedom-of-speech machines” such as himself bestow their “edgy” material on the kingdom and its subjects.”

      It is one thing to sell your soul for money (or try anyways lol) but it is an entirely another level of loser quality to pretend like you are fighting for freedom while doing it.

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        chapelles reason was pretty obvious, hes a transphobe, that was mad when he cant say transphobic jokes, and SA allows him to be transphobic as much as he wants.

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          What I find most weird about him choosing to die on that hill is it wasn’t even a good transphobic joke.

          Literally just hurr durr she has a dick.

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        Comedians understanding that they’re less significant of a form of free speech to society than a free and independent press is basically impossible for some reason.

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    14 days ago

    Likewise we’re not paid enough to be their audience. Grifters, kindly fuck off the stage.

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    Nice for these people to be so open about their shittiness, it removes the benefit of the doubt and makes it easier to weed them out

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    I used to love standup comedy. These days I feel as though so much of the mainstream comedy scene is made up of immature losers who peaked in highschool. Joe Rogan, Bert Kreisher, Bobby Lee, Chris Distefano… I cannot stand these guys. The list goes on.

    I thought Bill Burr was different. I’m really disappointed.

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      burr at least spoke out against the billionaire class…

      but then he took the fucking bonesaw money. fuck.

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      Taylor Tomlinson popped up on my feeds and it’s a fresh breath. Gianmarco Soresi did as well, but I doubt I’ll watch his special

      Taylor’s, though, I’d go see that live, and I’m not somebody to go to comedy clubs

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        I’ve seen her live. She’s great, and worth it. She’s funny with both her rehearsed material and her crowdwork.

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        I really like both. Gianmarco has exploded into my recommendations recently and I love every second.

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      Bill Burr is different in many ways but the clip of him screaming “fagot” at the crowd was a clue that he’s no ethical paragon

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          He came out later claiming it was a joke, but I don’t see how anyone can turn that into a comedy bit. This made me look at him deeper and he has a history of being creepy with women, many times on camera. I rather just avoid his stuff

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            I used to think I could sorta relate with him as he has that underachieving Asian persona.

            The reason I got tired of him was how I felt like he kept giving free passes for his costars to do low-hanging racist jokes. Sometimes, a joke based on ethnicity can be bang on, like it makes me feel, “holy shit, that’s so true” because it’s based on a very keen observation. But when it’s a bunch of trashy “comedians” making jokes about small eyes, small cock, ching-chong-chang names, eating dog, etc. based on stereotypes, it’s just insulting.

            And now he turns out to be a creep toward women and children, so fuck him even more, I guess. Too bad :(

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      I really hope he grows and shows some real contrition about it. It would take time to convince me, but I really hope he just didn’t think it through. Such a bummer.

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        Sadly, my prediction is that he’ll use his classic “I’m dumb, I don’t read the news” line as an excuse, and then go back to trashing billionaires as early as next week.

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        I don’t give a shit if he grows or not, I’m done with him. I saw what he did.

        Choke on your blood money, bill burka.

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        In my fantasy world, these comedians are currently in conference calls working on material to fry the Saudis together.

        Obviously they’d execute the first one that did it, but I like to dream

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      Standup was a thing in the 80s. I feel like even by the 90s it was already dying. There were a few unique acts like Mitch Hedberg for example, but the format itself is kind of no longer relevant.

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        Excuse me say what? This news had me thinking yesterday about how many solid comedians there are now vs. back in the day. In the 80s, we could name most popular comedians. “Ever heard of this Eddie Murphy guy?”

        Now? The list is enormous, and filled with hard hitters. I can spend all night on YouTube only watching the most popular, barely scratching the surface.

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    Marc Maron is the person who people think the lot of these guys like Burr are. His comedy/commentary is earnest. He has conviction. People like Burr are performative commentary. They go back to the dressing room to wash off the clown makeup so they can go back to being their private self. They don’t give a shit about the things the say into the mic.

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      Burr is pretty genuine, and he’s come a long way in the past 5-10 years (largely due to his awesome wife). However, he’s still a “both sides” liberal when it comes down to it.

      Maron is the real deal.

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    The lineup features Dave Chappelle, Louis CK, Bill Burr, Kevin Hart, Whitney Cummings, Pete Davidson, Aziz Ansari and Jo Koy, among many others who are all taking their fees directly from the Saudi government.

    Burr being on that list surprises me, but it said he’s also been to UAE. Davidson is pissing on his father’s grave.

    They have also taken flak from their peers. “The same guy that’s gonna pay them is the same guy that paid that guy to bone-saw Jamal Khashoggi and put him in a fucking suitcase,” said Marc Maron in a standup clip posted on his Facebook.

    Exactly.

    Greedy fucks, all of them.

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      Out of all of the comedians asked only TWO had enough integrity to turn the offer down.

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          Shane Gillis and Stavros Halkias were the only two that turned it down as far as I know.

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            Do you know if they turned it down for moral or ethical reasons or if they only turned it down because they already had a schedule conflict?

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              I can’t find it now but FWIW I just saw a video earlier today where Shane Gillis was dicsussing this. His reaction (at least in retrospect) was “You mean the 9/11 guys? No thank you”.

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              Well I guess I don’t know for sure but based on their general reactions to other people doing the show it sure seems like they turned it down for moral or ethical reasons.

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            I dunno if he turned it down or just blasted people about it but Zach Woods had a great video denouncing this.

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            Mike Birbiglia apparently turned it down, but didn’t make a big deal out of it.

            There’s no way that Nate Bargatze and John Mulaney didn’t get offers. I have to assume they turned it down based on the fact they didn’t go.

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    Here’s a full list:

    • Mo Amer
    • Aziz Ansari
    • Wayne Brady
    • Hannibal Buress
    • Bill Burr
    • Jimmy Carr
    • Dave Chappelle
    • Louis C.K.
    • Whitney Cummings
    • Pete Davidson
    • Chris Distefano
    • Omid Djalili
    • Zarna Garg
    • Ben Hart
    • Kevin Hart
    • Gabriel Iglesias
    • Jimeoin
    • Maz Jobrani
    • Jessica Kirson
    • Jo Koy
    • Bobby Lee
    • Sebastian Maniscalco
    • Sam Morril
    • Mark Normand
    • Russell Peters
    • Jeff Ross
    • Sugar Sammy
    • Andrew Santino
    • Andrew Schulz
    • Tom Segura
    • Ali Siddiq
    • Cipha Sounds
    • Aries Spears
    • Chris Tucker
    • Jack Whitehall

    Happy Boycott!

    EDIT: Corrected and expanded now, based on the feedback and what seem to be Saudi websites in English.

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      Be sure to fact check before putting people on blast and ruining their reputation.

      The following comedians were openly critical of those who took the gig. These comedians DID NOT go. Okatsuka specifically revealed the details of the contract these comedians had to sign. Woods made a scathing video that went viral criticizing the lineup.

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        Checked more than one outlet (apparently AI-written, since people like Maron are connected to it, but in a negative way) and came up with that conservative list.

        I am also surprised there is no official website I can find.

        Corrected and expanded now, based on the feedback and what seem to be Saudi websites in English.

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      Shane Gillis and Atsuko Okatsuka turned the invitation down.

      Atsuko has been outspoken about it and Shane said on his podcast he wouldn’t work for the people who did 9/11.

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        It’s been even worse since he got back and has been defending it. His supposed defenses make it so much worse for me.

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        Yeah man, fuck. Saw his jpg-artifact-face on the Cross response linked in the thread and just thought, no, cannot be right. And here we are. So now there were two terrible people on the Mandalorian show, damn.

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        Checked more than one outlet (apparently AI-written) and came up with that conservative list.

        Corrected now.

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          Nice, thanks for taking the time to update. It’s been tough to find a good source and it’s not like these comedians are looking to publicize it either

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    Can’t believe bill burr went. Turns out all of his billionaire critics were just meaningless

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      Everyone knows now he can be bought and swayed easily by money, since money talks.