90% of it is just misandrist bait, and its just an echochamber of misandry.
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Locking. Rule 1 - Sealioning!
I’m not a woman and it’s none of my business what happens on womanstuff so I blocked it.
Hey OP, just wanted to pop in to see how your attempt to garner support for your shitass take on an online space that isn’t meant for you was going.
looks around
Yup. Pretty much what I thought.
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More subs than that one. There be some zealous motherfuckers lurking around these fora.
There’s misandry communities?
Where?
Edit: aw a downvote and no answer? I’m curious, where’s all these misandry communities you speak of?
Simply, no it isn’t. I took a look, it’s honestly a nice community and doesn’t look like “an echochamber of misandry” Saying this as a guy btw
I won’t defend the OP because he’s surely just an embarrassing attention seeker, but in return I’ll say that you can’t really say that there isn’t misandry out there, especially on the leftist side of Lemmy, just as you can’t say that there isn’t a black swan out there (i.e. the induction problem), and in fact there are a lot of misandric women, and you can’t just rationalize it as a “valid reaction to centuries of oppression” because it’s a genetic fallacy. (where someone is held responsible for something they were not involved in because they were born much later, just because they are a descendant of that group).
Yeah talking about what we would pair with a sweater or talking about our Monday motivations or supporting DKP’s garden adventures is total misandry. You got us.
Fuck yeah! I appreciate all the gardening support!! 💚
I hope you post more pics soon! The weather has turned gorgeous where I am, I hope your plants are enjoying it too :)
They are doing really well. I’ll have to get some up on the next motivation Monday or weekend post :)
My luffas are luffaing!!
no, bigotry against an entire gender, aka Sexism.
the space itself existing is great, a woman only community.
But the discussions that go on there arent.
What made you focus on this in particular?
Have you seen Lemmy at large? The amount of misogyny that’s laid bare doesn’t bother you, but a couple of shitposts from women make you concerned?
it does.
all types of bigotry bother me.
please dont engage in whataboutism
Nah, I don’t play with men who won’t police other men, but will attack women for the “same” shit.
Stay in your lane.
What are you on about? Do we have to discuss sexism against men when discussing sexism against women every time? I personally dont think so. Sexism can happen to either gender and we can discuss both without touching on the problems of the opposing sex.
This guy is trying to have a discussion on a problem and you shove it aside by completely unjustified assumptions about the poster.
It’s not a real problem! He’s fucking lying about what the community actually is!
And you’re just fucking believing him. Shocker.
How is it not a real problem if women are being sexist? I am not claiming that all women are, and I am not claiming that every woman in said community is, but there is some form and amount of sexism present and I think this is an issue.
I like it that when someone on the Fediverse post sexist shit against women in the of “women bad” it almost always gets called out, this is great. The same thing should happen on posts about “men bad” (again, I am not claiming it does not happen currently, hard to judge because such posts are seen much less frequent).
What I would have liked to see in this thread is: “hey, there are some people in this community posting sexist shit, this is not okay.”, the same way you would see in a discussion about an incel forum (again, here for clarification, I am not claiming that womensstuff is a femcel forum). What i see tough in this thread is that sexism against men is not called out similarly as sexism against women.
I will police other men.
Sorry if we don’t just take your word for it. So far, we’ve only you seen you trying to police the ones that hurt your own feelings. If you go on to prove me wrong, I’ll gladly apologize.
Fucking doubt.
Same thing with male only spaces. They wouldn’t hang out there if they weren’t sexist.
But do I tag this user as “troll” or “misogynist”?
I went with
Yeah, this is even better.
yes
maybe post some examples of what you find distasteful, OP?
man vs bear gender war garbage
and what man has been alive for centuries? you talking to nosferatu?
Lighten up, dude.
I don’t see these as genuine misandry I see them as jokes used to cope with a shitty world state. I post a ton of memes with similar intent. I’m curious to see if you have examples of genuine blatantly anti men content that has zero intent of humor.
Dude, chill out, neither of those are misandry.
There’s a distinct difference between hateful rhetoric and good natured blowing off a little steam, and the examples you give are very clearly in the latter category. I take no offense at these posts because I know that the sort of men they are talking about very much do exist, and I also know I’m not one of them. It’s ok they didn’t add an addendum remembering that other sorts of men exist; not everything has to be about me.
Also, by taking offense at these posts, you are literally acting out the the second one right now. Got to appreciate the irony of it.
Edit: I forgot to say, the “for centuries” bit is obviously referring to it being ingrained into our cultures.
Is comedy illegal now? We can’t laugh about choosing the bear?
You found two shitposts. Congrats. Thanks for ignoring the majority of the content that’s actually there.
Don’t you see? Men are so HURT by the bear thing! You just have to choose the man! Come on da lil bear is so scawwy, how could you possibly choose that?
Do you think it irks them so much because it’s true, and they can’t admit it? It’s like every time they bring it up it proves the point. Insane.
This bear thing is so funny. I’m a man and I’d rather encounter a bear in the woods than a stranger man.
You can learn how to prevent or protect yourself from bear attacks in a 4-hour training.
With a stranger, you have no idea how he’ll react.Anyone who says this has literally never encountered a bear before
I’ve been charged and nearly killed by a grizzly near Nordegg AB like 10 years ago. Bear spray did nothing.
Hundreds upon hundreds of humans met on the trail and none have tried to kill me.
Yeah all those women raped, beat, kept captive, impregnated, murdered, tortured - that was just bears in men’s suits.
Silly us.
If you encountered as many bears as you did men, you wouldn’t be alive lol.
This debate is garbage though. You’ll never get close to a bear in your entire life so having this conversation with you is pointless
I worked as a hiking guide in the Chilcotin Mountains for a year, and did a Grizzly population count for a land use report during that time. I literally had more than one bear encounter per week, sometimes 5 in a day.
You’re a hiking guide, and you think a random person in the woods is scarier than a bear? I am sorry but I just don’t believe you.
the actual essence of the community and the thoughts and ideas are reflected not in your posts but in your ideologies
the actual essence of the community and the thoughts and ideas are reflected not in your posts but in your ideologies
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Very impressive that you can divine the essence of a community, not reflected in posts, just by reading a bunch of posts and making assumptions about them. That’s a neat trick.
the posts, replies, etc
Don’t you see that a gathering of women without male escorts is expressly forbidden on Lemmy?
We can’t be trusted on our own apparently.
Let’s see you bring this energy to any of the multiple shitposting communities that are majority male.
Let women have our spaces. It’s the only community that’s ours. Women are allowed to be upset about how men at large treat us, how they rape and beat us, how men laugh at our genitals, our hobbies, our passions.
We’re allowed to talk about our lives.
theres no mensstuff community, but I do call out sexist content when I see it, be it misogynistic or misandrist.
Frankly, this reads in the same way as All Lives Matter arguments. The default for most online spaces is male. You went and found one of the only comms where that isn’t the case and got offended that it didn’t cater to you, then cherry picked a few shitposts/joke posts to support your misogynism.
Also, there actually are communities for “men’s stuff” like dullmensclub.
That’s because the men’s stuff community is all of the other parts of the fediverse.
women are allowed. and I doubt its mostly men either.
that is a single user. block them.
i have blocked that user because they do indeed endlessly post hateful stupid shit non-stop.
in fact you might as well just block blahj entirely. their entire reason for existing is to spout hate rhetoric under the guise of identity politics. just like it is with .ml and the authoritarian Marxists.
He wouldn’t be able to misrepresent what that community actually is about if he did that.
Echo chambers be echo chambers.
Just remember that everyone on the internet is a robot trying to piss you off in order to siphon your vital essence
Speaking as a man: Stop white knighting my gender.
We don’t need your protection or worry.
Women making jokes on our expense does not hurt us.
That is simply false by counter example alone
What the fuck. Dude, don’t presume to speak for our gender, you’re doing the same lame bullshit that he does, you’re both losers. Move on.
You should smile more.
If you don’t identify as a woman, it doesn’t matter whatever the fuck is going on in there because it clearly says it’s not about you.
Until they start brigading other communities I see no reason why men should even care, let alone actively engage.First let me start by saying that I don’t think this is the case for this community because the “examples” of misandry OP shared are clearly not misandryc, but:
If you don’t identify as a woman, it doesn’t matter whatever the fuck is going on in there because it clearly says it’s not about you.
That’s a problematic logic, imagine a community of white supremacists saying “If you’re not white it doesn’t matter what we do here, because it’s clearly not about you” and you’ll understand why.
Yeah but nah because one is a choice and one isn’t. As a white man I wouldn’t feel comfortable commenting my opinions on any other ethnicity’s problems either.
Seriously. I saw that it was a space for women, and since I’m not a woman I blocked the community so I don’t accidentally comment in a community where I’m not wanted. If the ladies need a space to vent, there’s nothing wrong with that.
I haven’t noticed a prevalence of that there. Checking it just now I can’t find a single example of misandry. Maybe you are just misreading the vibe.
