This is why I treat it like a rental. When I was renting my deposit was 10 days of rent and I didn’t expect to get it back because I knew from someone else leaving that the landlord was a wanker.
I started homebrewing when I lived there, had a batch explode and splatter honey water all across the room. I quickly learnt to avoid the patches of carpet that were sticky. Knowing that the landlord wouldn’t repay the deposit without me taking him to court anyway, I didn’t bother cleaning it up.
I’ve been in the same place for over a decade, the deposit I’d like back but the place is kinda infamous for nickle and dime issues to keep as much as possible. Also the new management company have been sticklers for keeping things “clean” without saying what the standard is. I wipe up when I make a mess, sweep and mop when it’s worth my time. Still, they made a stink that I wasn’t perfect. So now I pour oil down the kitchen sink.
It’s that dog meme which I’m too lazy to even search for because I’m busy working to pay the rent: No Living! Just Rent!
Here you go
No take. Only throw.
They cannot enforce no working from home. God damn those parasites are so fucking out of touch
“Where you work” is not a protected characteristic in the US. Plenty of places where a landlord could throw this clause into the lease, and if they can prove you violated it, they can start eviction proceedings.
It would be very difficult to prove, and the ensuing legal battle may cost more than the “additional maintenance” that may be required, but in theory these bastards can do pretty much whatever they want.
I know, the where you work isn’t protected, but bring a rental has the implicit use of being a domicile, with all the freedoms associated with it
domicile
I guess it depends on what freedoms you associate with being a domicile. Plenty of leases have specific restrictions in the agreement that are enforceable as long as they don’t explicitly conflict with local laws. No smoking, no pets, etc are all valid and enforceable clauses to put in a lease. I’ve signed leases saying “guests can’t stay longer than 24 hours” without batting an eye.
Requiring a tenant to be out of the house 8 hours per day is odd and difficult to prove, but if you sign a lease that says it, I don’t see how you wouldn’t be accountable to it.
This does depend on where you live. I have had pets in every “no pets” lease I’ve ever had because in my area its unenforceable and not an envictable offence unless under very specific circumstances, usually the landlord would have to be living in the same building and have an allergy to pets to be able to enforce a no pets rule.
Theres lots of bullshit landlords will put in a lease because they think whatever they write is law but there are often certain standards that apply regardless of what the lease says.
Agreed, I said exactly as much:
enforceable as long as they don’t explicitly conflict with local laws.
Ooh, I actually know a little bit about this!
A property owner can put whatever TF restrictions they want in the lease—and they often do! But just because it’s in a contract doesn’t mean it’s legal (e.g. contract to kill).
Let’s say a property owner finds out their tenant is working from home. They claim a violation of the lease and start eviction proceedings. That’s dumb AF.
- This would only ever be used as an excuse for a tenant they don’t like.
- If it came before a judge, even they would be like, “WTF?” And would probably not demand an explanation, but instead would point to mountains of case law that say a property owner can’t dictate what people can and can’t do within a rental property as long as those activities don’t impact the property (e.g. the value).
- That’s when the property owner would have to explain how Joe Schmoe working from home is somehow worse than retiree Judy Anywoman who stays at home all day every day.
Oh yeah, as I said, it’s a very difficult thing to prove and absolutely not worth the money wasted trying to enforce it. But there’s no rule saying dogs can’t play basketball. If a landlord wants to put it in, and a tenant knowingly signs it, the tenant needs to be prepared for the possibility of this turning into a huge pain in the ass.
Yeah, yeah, we all know the Air Bud clause.
Where i live, you can say no pets, but that is not enforceable, they can deny you on the application, but you can get a pet the minute you move in and the landlords cant evict you for it
Depending on the jurisdiction.
No businesses from home is a relatively common condition in a lease and co-op ownership contract, especially if the business involves people constantly visiting the home or turns the mailroom into a warehouse.
It is the equivalent of a lease banning a person from setting up an Airbnb in the unit they rented.
Working from home and operating a business out of your home are VASTLY different things.
It depends. If you’re an independent contractor working for a company, you could be considered to be operating a business from your home.
The line has gotten blurry, especially after COVID.
I’ve never owned a business or had employees. But, I can imagine what it feels like to come into work and see all the busy workers at their desks, etc., and knowing you “created” it. Having people knock respectfully on your door and ask questions, making decisions, taking pride in what you accomplished.
That’s what they miss, the feeling of power and control. In fact, it’s always about power and control first, and whatever the widget is they sell comes second. They don’t care about the specific product, it could be any product, they don’t care about the workers as individuals, only as a group they lord over, and direct. If they can’t see and feel the direct response to their influence, that is the power they hold, then they aren’t happy.
I’m surprised they think robots will provide that same high. Don’t they know how empty a building full of machines feels?
My god, humans are fucked up.
Ok, but can I still flip the switch on and off rapidly pretending its a lightning storm.
The system. Is down. The system. Is down.
Landlord also owns some business he needs employees at to worship his ego.
they’re trying everything they can to greed the fuck out of people
Come on people. Don’t be so hard on the landlord. If you don’t leave for work, when is he supposed to go through your underwear drawer?
Hire gnomes, I don’t know
The term landlord dates back to feudalism. This is insanity.
That’s illegal in my country.
The only power a landlord has here is when people break stuff on purpose, cause actual disturbance or do not pay. Stuff like race, dogs, job and all that type discrimination is not allowed.
Must be nice in your country :)
While pet ownership and any sort of discrimination is not allowed in Norway, renters here view in envy at our neighbours regulated renting markets, especially the lowlanders in Denmark. But what hurts the progression here the most right now, is that up to 80 % of adults own their homes, so regulating for the lower 20 % will never be a priority, since that might hurt most people.
I’m a landlord and I don’t care, the house is meant to be used. I’m not using it and your paying me to use it so have at it, it’s my job to save enough of your rent to fix stuff as it fails
Yeah, my tenants have got a dog and we keep the white goods in working order for them. I don’t need them to pay off my mortgage, just want to treat them with the respect I’d want my landlord to treat me with.
Exactly, I got a 3% rate, no hurry in paying off mortgage plus it will probably be my retirement home some day
Thank you for your service
I don’t want you to wear out my two-dollar light switch!! Waaah
But also:
Rent this month is $2,200, and you’d better not be late, or you’re a dead motherfucker.
or you’re a dead motherfucker.
Saw a video where a couple who rent their home as an AirBNB were bitching that their tennants used the beds. In the very next scene, they bitched that the guests didn’t eat the snacks in the kitchen.
Sooo, no retirees, stay-at-home moms, lottery winners, self-employed, etc.?
“I’m too rich to afford providing your wealth grade a home, so I’d appreciate if we could grow more apart economically 😊”
