For people who already tried both, what’s the reason you’re sticking with GNOME or KDE as your desktop environment?

  • JoshCodes@programming.dev
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    2 days ago

    I’m really easily distracted and have things to do when I use my home PC(s). So gnome is really the only thing I can reliably set up and not spend all my time customising. Also, Ubuntu was my first distro (tbh it was Kali Linux but we don’t talk about my larp era) and I liked the DE from that.

    Its not like I don’t customise it mind you, but that’s limited to changing the default wallpaper, installing blur my shell and dash to panel, then adding custom icons, usually Tela circle. After that though I don’t touch anything in the DE. If I’m on a laptop, I go full Ubuntu and put the dock on the left vertical side of the screen

    In comparison I once spent hours customising KDE to look and sound like windows 98, only to realise I didn’t like it, to change it to something completely different 3 more times. I did not pass the assignment I was meant to be doing. Its fun but I’ll do anything to procrastinate.

  • Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca
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    2 days ago

    Gnome with paperwm - infinite tiled scrolling has been my goto on the laptop for a while. Its infuriating to use with a mouse, so when i plug i switch to kde.

  • hubobes@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    I found KDE to be cleaner, they work extremely hard on making GTK apps look like native Qt apps for example. Or how tray Icons (which need a plug in on Gnome) look and behave. On KDE they feel native, Gnomes plugins make them look foreign.

    So weirdly enough KDE is imho the cleaner of the two.

  • NorthernLightMountain@piefed.social
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    2 days ago

    I’m running Plasma at the moment. I actually prefer three look out Gnome and I think I would use it if my home computer was used for anything productive. It’s mainly used for gaming though and Gnomes main design doesn’t quite flow as well while gaming on a dual screen setup.

    It’s just easier to be able to see the task bar and all open programs (and sys tray) on my second monitor all the time instead of having to go through a hot cornet or hitting the super button.

    Sure, this could be fixed through the use of addons (like Ubuntu has by default for instance) but these tend to break on new versions of Gnome while Plasma just keep working.

    My preferred setup while running Gnome was the stock adwaita theme, dag to panel, arc menu and whatever that sys tray addon was called.

    If I could have the same look over in Plasma I’d be pretty happy tbh but I haven’t really made the effort since it just works the way it is and doesn’t look bad doing it either.

  • spartanatreyu@programming.dev
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    3 days ago

    Before:

    • Gnome 2 was great
    • Gnome 3 was terrible
    • KDE 4 was terrible

    Today: KDE.

    Why not Gnome:

    • It’s missing basic features.
    • General new users startup is:
      • searching online to try and fix things
      • 50% chance of it working.
      • 50% chance of it not working because the fix doesn’t work on your version of gnome and having to find another fix
    • Common recommendation for missing features (to use extensions) is a non-starter since the extensions break after every update, so every update you need to go back through the general new users startup steps above.

    Why KDE:

    • It has all the basic features by default, and a bunch of extra stuff.
    • General new user process is:
      • looking through settings and changing the 2-3 they care about
      • looking through features, trying them out to see which ones you want to use, turning on/off the 2-3 you care about
      • Never needing to look through or remember the other settings, because your computer is already set up for you.

    Future:

    • Gnome: more of the same, likely basic features missing until specific people are removed (could be 5-10 years, then another few years of catching up).
    • KDE: Will continue making updates and consolidating similar features where it makes sense.
    • Cosmic: Will continue sanding off rough edges and fill in last remaining missing features. Will probably surpass Gnome for 90% of user’s needs in a year. Will probably be trading blows with KDE in 3 years and will surpass them if KDE ever makes any missteps.
  • Vogi@piefed.social
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    3 days ago

    KDE is too inconsistent when it comes to margins and font sizes. I still have it installed on my Desktop PC which ever so often use to see how things are going.

    My daily driver (laptop) runs GNOME though. I do not like the slightly too large margins and the flat design (old skeuomorphism icons was peak). It is consistent and despite what everyone says thanks to Extensions customisable enough. Here is my extension list:

    • ArcMenu
    • Dash to Panel
    • Grand theft Focus
    • Gtk4 Desktop Icons NG
    • Rounded Window Corners Reborn

    and of course:

    • Activate Linux

    It is really cozy and I like it very much. :)

      • Vogi@piefed.social
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        2 days ago

        I wanna say yes, but it really does not make a whole lot of sense.

        GNOME is less space efficient which on a smaller display is crucial. It does have better touchscreen support in case your laptop has that (and the bigger margins do come in handy here). But i know it might sound weird but GNOME fits the vibe of a laptop better. No surprise it gets often compared to macOS and KDE being the Windows equivalent. Its just less serious… just as a laptop is. Not that you don’t get shit done on there, its just a bit more cozy :)

        I have an eye on https://sinty.dev/ as well though I think there is already a alpha out, but I have done enough distro/de hoping this and last year :) From what I can tell its GNOME but with less margins. The design is still very libadwaita like which makes modern GNOME apps not look out of place. It is from the same developer that did Vanilla OS and Bottles so this won’t be abandoned too quickly. In the age of vibe coded and quickly forgotten garbage you can’t be too sure about that.

  • exdor@programming.dev
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    3 days ago

    I used GNOME for work and it was interesting. There are pros and cons, but generally I prefer KDE A LOT and basically made GNOME look like some form of KDE.

    GNOME seems to be significantly more stable but also has significantly less features. Both are very important and sadly the stability doesnt seem to have changed much. I still have the panel disappearing after some time etc. KDE got way better here and they want to invest into their CI a lot including memory leak tests. We can also expect improvements due to the funding they get for their 6.6 LTS version (funded by Kubuntu Focus).

    GNOME has extensions which can do a lot but have basically no guarantees to be secure or verified or anything, which is very problematic also for security. On GNOME you rely on those even for simple things like a clipboard manager or blur.

    I like some GNOME apps, but generally they are just so much worse than KDE apps. They have no up-to-date terminal that has features, like wtf? Their text editor is too simple and they dont have a simple IDE like Kate, theirs is too much “project focused”. They dont have a simple image editor, at all. Or a QR code generator, or KDE Connect, or GUI settings for half the things etc.

  • yuri@pawb.social
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    3 days ago

    i use gnome for my laptops bc they have touch screens and pen input and shit. i use kde for proper desktop bc it isn’t trying to do stuff i don’t need it to.

  • ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 days ago

    I’ll probaby move to Gnome when my hands are too arthritic to operate a mouse and keyboard properly, and I just want to punch big icons and buttons I can barely see anymore. And I’ll be too far gone in dementia to customize my desktop anymore, so I won’t be able to hurt myself having settings I can mess up. I’ll understand where to find apps like “Mail” and “Files” instead of hard names like Thunderbird and Dolphin.

    Then Gnome will be fine for a couple years just before I croak.

  • Krinkil2705@lemmygrad.ml
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    3 days ago

    I migrated from Window$, and KDE offered a smoother transition. Since it works fine, I decided not to fix something not broken.

  • ludrol@programming.dev
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    3 days ago

    I use both on different computers:
    Gnome has auto-rotation out of the box so it goes into the tablet.
    KDE has better extensions and wobbly windows so I can make it cursed whimsical enough to my liking

  • Willie169@infosec.pub
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    3 days ago

    Ι stick with KDE Plasma after trying GNOME, KDE, and Cinnamon. In GNOME, many settings are not available in GUI (I don’t remember which they are now), while they are available in KDE. And back when I used Cinnamon it didn’t support Wayland while some of my apps (especially Waydroid) needs Wayland. But I mostly use CLI for daily tasks for automation and easier copy-pasting forum answers, asking LLM, and sharing to GitHub, so I may not be a representative DE user.

  • ArsonButCute@programming.dev
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    3 days ago

    I used plasma for nearly a decade and only recently switched off of it because I wanted to try something different. I moved over to GNOME for a bit, and while it was nice, I kept running into issues with customization, specifically Gnome Extensions are a pain in my ass.

    I moved to cosmic a few weeks ago on my desktop rig, which is my server, but is also for gaming. I don’t want this one to feel like an “office” machine, and cosmic does a great job of feeling like just a computer. On my laptop, which I use for development, I prefer a stable “no-bullshit” interface, as such I use MATE there. MATE, if you’re unfamiliar, is the successor to Gnome2. It is a more traditional desktop experience, using familiar idioms. Customization is limited (out of box) compared to the more major DE’s like KDE and GNOME

  • Hemingways_Shotgun@lemmy.ca
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    3 days ago
    • Gnome has consistently moved away from a desktop experience and towards one that is geared towards touch screens. Which is fair enough, I suppose. But it’s not what I want. I don’t want bigger, more colorful icons that are more friendly to a touch screen. I don’t want drag gestures to do everything in my laptop…that’s what my tablet is for. By trying to make something that works for both, they don’t excel at either one and just end up making a mid-version of either experience.

    • Its design is trying to make things “easy” for people by taking away their choice, which I fundamentally disagree with. To me, making things easier is about making sane defaults that people don’t need to change, but leaving those options for when the user gets more familiar. Taking out the ability entirely is dystopian windows level “you do what we tell you and you’ll like it” levels of glazing.

    • This is minor, but the fact that I need to have Firefox in order to do anything of any substance in terms of what little customization there is on Gnome just bothers me. Why does your desktop still rely on another project in order to achieve full functionality?

  • Horsey@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    I’ve stuck to KDE because it’s more customizable and the devs don’t try to actively remove features from updates. Gnome might be a cleaner experience, but I don’t want to have to search for alternatives when my favorite gnome extension gets unexpectedly killed by an update.

    KDE appears to be much more stable in that regard in that they’re actively trying (Union) to make themes more resilient over time.