• Gork@lemm.ee
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    It sounds like we need to crowdfund the creation of a Private Military Company. We’ll need a good name for it.

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      Why not crowd fund your own lobbyist and think tank. Do what the rich do.

      Think tanks create a strategy. They suggest/create bills in your interest. They tell you what politicians to target. Think tanks are filled with statistician and lawyers who build portfolios for how to accomplish what you want. Its polls and research and statistics that show why your goal is good.

      Hand the package to lobbyist who target those politician and start pushing change the way it is supposed to occur. Keep your issue in front of the politician. Show them through your research that if they pass and fight for (x) that they will stay in power or gain popularity and it will benefit the country.

      Or call them Nazis and throw food at works of art. Not sure the best route.

      Its crazy to me people think they can more easily convince people to burn their work days up protesting in streets than just donating $50 to the fight

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        Where do we donate that $50 right now?

        I think that’s part of the problem too. No one knows an effective method to follow through with, or if they do find one it’s more often than not, not the same one “I” chose.

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              That is a bribe. That isn’t what lobbying is exclusively. Lobbying is bringing your issue to politician to influence them to fight for you. Corrupt lobbyist will bribe to influence the politician. But you’re mixing up a subset of what it is with the whole. Lobbying is what groups fighting for abortion rights and civil action do every day. Tobacco lobbyist or your local wealthy family greasing wheels should dismay you from participating in it.

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                  No, a bribe is an illegal form of lobbying. It is not lobbying.

                  If you can’t agree, I can give you examples of lobbying that is not bribery. and if you can’t understanding that then you’re not reasonable and just a time vampire

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                    It is not illegal at all. The SCOTUS said so themselves: money is speech, and corporations can “donate” as much as they want. Lobbying that is not bribery is simply ignored. As long as money changes hands, it is bribery; what makes it legal is to drop a check on the desk and say “my client has some concerns about upcoming legislation” instead of saying “you can have this money if you vote how I say to vote.” I mean, really…this has been a long-standing, well known issue for all of my life. For you to sit there and say it isnt real is just downright absurd. You are the time vampire in this conversation.