cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/18727811

It feels dirty to agree with an ISP on something. But even the worst corporations are on the right side of something from time to time I suppose.

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    4 months ago

    ISPs just don’t want to be made to police copyright offenses for free. if the RIAA/MPAA paid them money to aid in enforcement, you can bet they be doing it in a heartbeat.

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      4 months ago

      well, no, there’s no amount of money the riaa/mpaa could pay them, which would justify the amounts lost to terminating services for everyone that’s pirating, lol, they’d go out of business

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        4 months ago

        I hope you’re right, and that people scrolling social media aren’t the biggest source of income to ISP’s.

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      They would need to pay much, very much.

      The costs of doing what they want are already a big fucking burden and in reality.

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        i truly hope you’re right. enforcing copyright offenses for downloaders is an absolute waste of everyone’s resources regardless of who pays. piracy is a market force, and the corpos need to just acknowledge that.

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          The ISPs don’t want to enforce it ever usually. They like just minding their own business running the money press without idiotic disturbances.

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    4 months ago

    Internet access needs to be made a utility and treated as such, essential as any other.

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      Tbh, im doing that from time to time, they themselves couldn’t care less about piracy or online hate or anything like that. So they tend to argue in court that they shouldn’t have the burden to ban any website, any person or any company, also they don’t want to store the logs of millions of users because the government wants to Persecute some people.

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      they want to bring in the most money and expend the least effort. I can respect that.

      Policing customers/users is a PITA and generally sux to do even on the smaller scale of an office. Much cheaper and easier to do nothing.

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    4 months ago

    It sounds super fucking illigal because disconnecting internet may fall under prohibiting freedom of speech

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      But internet is a service provided by a private company that’s not affiliated with the government. Free speech only applies to government actions.

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        No that’s not how it works, internet nowadays is a public place, just like a street/place is. Over 50% of social life nowadays is on the internet and its not provided by A provider, it a gigantic network of providers, governments and private people that make up the internet. And prohibiting access to that place (the isp is literally just a gatekeeper) is a violation of Freedom of speech, freedom of opinion and freedom of information.

        Also a law requiring them to prohibit people from access is the government…

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          There is nothing in law to recognize the internet as a “public place”. Freedom of speech literally only protects your speech from governmental censorship. Simply does not apply online, no matter how much you want it to.

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      You are not entitled to a platform, especially one privately-run.