• Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Imo, the only solution is every device with an antenna must be legally required to put a manual off switch.

    Cell service, wifi, Bluetooth, any future service. If it broadcasts it needs a physical off switch.

    If I sold my car to a government official and they found out I had hidden a camera, microphone and GPS in the car, I’d get a visit from the FBI. Yet companies do it with impunity. Does the CEO of Subaru have recordings of Bernie Sanders driving in his car?

  • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    I hope people realize that the solution isn’t really to just not buy one, especially since this is the way the industry is heading. The solution is regulations, strict regulations.

    Stuff like this should be a slam dunk for congress but we all know which side they are on.

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      6 months ago

      Agreed. It’s really hard to understate how ineffective “voting with your wallet” can be. The fact is simply that nobody honestly cares. Even if you get 100 people to boycott a company, would 100 out of millions of consumers really make a difference? Of course not.

      And of course, you always have cases like this where everybody does it. Same thing goes for TVs - if everyone spies on you, the only real solution is to not have a TV. Yes, I know there are exceptions here and there, but bad practices like these force buyers into making compromises that they shouldn’t have to. Capitalism should be predicated on companies offering the best product to earn their income. It should not be about companies having the least bad product and trying every terrible thing that they can get away with.

      (Of course, we all know that capitalism is a farce.)

      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        Even if you get 100 people to boycott a company, would 100 out of millions of consumers really make a difference?

        There’s definitely an economic impact to a vehicle looking or driving like shit. And I’m sure you’ll see some amount of consumer migration higher than 0.01% of the retail base.

        But there’s also a lot of obfuscation, deception, and outright lying in the automotive sales industry. So its less a question of “Will consumers reject this feature?” and more “Will consumers even be aware of this feature?”

        Capitalism should be predicated on companies offering the best product

        What happens when the retail customers have be commodified? What happens when the product is Surveillance and the real big money clients are state actors and private mega-businesses that benefit from tracking rented vehicles?

        As we move closer to a full Service Contract economic model - one in which individuals don’t really own anything and have to continuously pay to access even basic features of their home devices - I can see a lot of financial incentives in the system that preclude car dealers from leaving these features out.

        Imagine a bank that simply won’t finance vehicles that can’t be tracked. Or a rental company that won’t add vehicles to their fleet without these always-on internet features. Or a car lot that uses continuous tracking to manage its inventory.

        Very quickly, the individual consumer becomes a secondary concern relative to these economies of scale.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      The solution is regulations, strict regulations.

      Regulation by whom? Dems are already deep in bed with the automotive industry and Republicans hate the government on a purely ideological level.

      Who is supposed to write (much less enforce) these regulations? Nobody in government wants the job.

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    6 months ago

    Are any of you even able to afford new cars? Who the hell’s buying this shit? I probably won’t have a new car ever.

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      6 months ago

      Buying a new car never really made sense to me even when you could afford it. 2 - 3 year old model is effectively brand new but a lot cheaper. Why pay more if you can pay less?