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    In the traditional problem, the man tied to the tracks has no input in the final result, they are just a passive piece of the problem, we can assume what their thinking is and that it is how I rationalized my solution: I would expect the lever to be pulled if I was tied to the tracks and so I pull it myself knowing I would not blame the one pulling the lever for my death.

    But in this scenario the man has the ability to act for himself: he can decide to jump. I would never expect him to do so (actually I would never expect 99% of people to pull the lever if they were to die themselves) because that is an action that goes too much against all of our instincts and by pushing them I would, in my opinion, commit a murder.

    If I was the fat man I would not jump, and if I was pushed I would absolutely blame the one doing it for my death.

    You could think that killing 1 to save 5 is the better outcome, but who decide that 1 human is less worth than those 5? It’s just the numbers? Then you could argue that between fighting WWII and submitting to the Nazi the better outcome would have been to not fight them because the people that died in camps were less then the victims of the war. Of course that’s an overblown example, but it show why I’m extremely uncomfortable with pushing the fat man: imposing your will on someone who has the ability to act is almost never the answer




  • Clear@lemmy.blahaj.zoneto196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneRule (Penance 28/100)
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    2 months ago

    I happily live with myself. The death is on the hands of whomever tied those people to the tracks.

    Yes, I pulled the lever and by so chose who lived and who died, but if I was that person alone on the tracks I wouldn’t blame the one pulling the lever, I believe it was the lesser of two evil. I would still be fucking pissed, but at the one who tied me there, not the person forced to choose.


  • Clear@lemmy.blahaj.zonetoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world"rebellious"
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    3 months ago

    Having the same opinion of some mainstream entities is not inherently bad, as long as you don’t blindly agree on anything.

    The important part is thinking critically for yourself, otherwise you are either someone who follows propaganda/ disinformation too blindly or you go too far the other way and become a conspiracy theorists and start believing antivaxxer bullshit just because you believe the opposite of anything mainstream media says