Despite being a free product, free search engines make a lot of money. Kagi’s Why Pay for Search says that, “In 2022 Google generated USD $224.47 Billion dollars from advertisement revenue while processing approximately 8 Billion searches per day. At 365 days per year this amounts to approximately USD $0.07 revenue per search. If an average user searches 5 times per day, assuming a 30 day month this results in Google generating USD $11 revenue per user per month.
These “articles” from unknown websites su h ad ioslife are clearly a native ads, this one for Kaji.
Kaijis marketing agency has a lot of bots on this platform so it will get upvotes and but you are fooling nobody.
Hey could you point me to the blocklist that my domain is currently on? I am not able to find it on any public list. It also would be extremeley surprising to me if it was on a list as this is the first article I have shared with the world.
“Anonymous logs are shared with Sentry when bugs, crashes, or warnings occur for debugging purposes.”
It is quite a leap in logic — a non sequitur, even — to go from “debug crash logs sent to a crash reporting service” to “your personal information is being shared with third parties,” especially since Sentry themselves advise that their own users (developers) should not send personal information to them.
Please give the evidence detailing what personally identifying information Kagi collects and how they send it to Sentry, since you clearly know how things work internally in there.
Searching for Sentry with your supplied source gives nothing helpful, in fact Exodus doesn’t even list Sentry as a tracker here. I’m sure a “well known and notorious” tracker should be listed as such.
So again, citation needed. Link evidence of these claims.
The non-exhaustive list of Python, Swift, Java and native bindings for the Sentry SDK are all FOSS by your own criterion, so I’m not sure where this whole FOSS diatribe is coming from.
Again, can you send a direct link to a credible source (read: not a remark to “look it up myself”) that presents the evidence on exactly how Sentry aggregates and collects personal data? Your criticism about corporate privacy policies boiling down to a “just trust us bro” mentality can be applied to your own claims and chain of comments: without any evidence I’m forced to take your assertions at face value and “just trust you bro.”
Right in email they’re trying to get around spam filters. This is a blog, aka a website. Somewhere in this thread (curse Lemmy clients) someone pointed out the misspelled words and they were rather basic.
As a web developer familiar with SEO: still not making the connection. And from what I’m seeing lately in the comments here and elsewhere Lemmy seems to be full of people just jumping to conclusions rather quickly.
Your response really doesn’t answer anything. Spammers and/or bots misspell words in emails. Okay? And that’s related how?
You’re claiming that it’s written by a bot simply due to spelling errors. I don’t believe you so I’m legitimately asking what the motivation would be, and you just say “well they misspell.”
Guess who else misspells things? Have you read any recently news publication? They’re just full of spelling and grammar mistakes. Look at me — I can misspell thigns too, I must be a bot.
Yeah that’s not really an answer, and the reason I’d like you to actually think about it is because I believe you’re confused what the difference is between a “bot” and a simple text generator.
Well now, that would’ve saved me a lot of time and research. I also wouldn’t have learned nearly as much from reading all the different privacy policies. Luckily, I didn’t do that which allowed me to create my own personal recommendations for my family and myself.
I want to reiterate that I have no affiliation with Kagi or any other search engine, I currently don’t even pay for Kagi. I am just a human on the hunt for the best search engine to protect my family’s privacy.
That said, I just saw your update regarding Sentry.
Looking at Kagi’s Privacy Policy, there are two things to say in response to
It states that Kaji is the best when actually they are clearly the worst, they do record your IP to deliver their services and they do share your data with a notorious 3rd party tracking company- sentry.io.
“We do not log or store your IP address. Your IP address is used only temporarily when enriching location/maps searches, and is not shared with any other party.”
“Anonymous logs are shared with Sentry when bugs, crashes, or warnings occur for debugging purposes.”
Also:
If you pay them then everything you do on their site is linked directly do you. I.e. zero privacy.
“Searches are anonymous and private to you. Kagi does not log and associate searches with an account.”
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I didn’t even read OP’s post but…
It’s Kagi not Kaji. If you’re going to criticize something at least get the name right.
Privacy is not anonymity… and it’s a pev of mine that people confuse this.
However, you can get pretty close to anonymity paying them in crypto:
https://help.kagi.com/kagi/plans/payment-methods.html
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Hey could you point me to the blocklist that my domain is currently on? I am not able to find it on any public list. It also would be extremeley surprising to me if it was on a list as this is the first article I have shared with the world.
Care to give any details?
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It is quite a leap in logic — a non sequitur, even — to go from “debug crash logs sent to a crash reporting service” to “your personal information is being shared with third parties,” especially since Sentry themselves advise that their own users (developers) should not send personal information to them.
Please give the evidence detailing what personally identifying information Kagi collects and how they send it to Sentry, since you clearly know how things work internally in there.
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Searching for Sentry with your supplied source gives nothing helpful, in fact Exodus doesn’t even list Sentry as a tracker here. I’m sure a “well known and notorious” tracker should be listed as such.
So again, citation needed. Link evidence of these claims.
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The non-exhaustive list of Python, Swift, Java and native bindings for the Sentry SDK are all FOSS by your own criterion, so I’m not sure where this whole FOSS diatribe is coming from.
Again, can you send a direct link to a credible source (read: not a remark to “look it up myself”) that presents the evidence on exactly how Sentry aggregates and collects personal data? Your criticism about corporate privacy policies boiling down to a “just trust us bro” mentality can be applied to your own claims and chain of comments: without any evidence I’m forced to take your assertions at face value and “just trust you bro.”
Funny that once you pulled out actual information, they had nothing to say. Classic.
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If it’s a bot then why the spelling errors? Not understanding the logic here.
Ever see spelling errors in spam? They do that on purpose.
Right in email they’re trying to get around spam filters. This is a blog, aka a website. Somewhere in this thread (curse Lemmy clients) someone pointed out the misspelled words and they were rather basic.
As a web developer familiar with SEO: still not making the connection. And from what I’m seeing lately in the comments here and elsewhere Lemmy seems to be full of people just jumping to conclusions rather quickly.
Your response really doesn’t answer anything. Spammers and/or bots misspell words in emails. Okay? And that’s related how?
Bot output can have spelling errors. Example given. Simple as that.
You’re claiming that it’s written by a bot simply due to spelling errors. I don’t believe you so I’m legitimately asking what the motivation would be, and you just say “well they misspell.”
Guess who else misspells things? Have you read any recently news publication? They’re just full of spelling and grammar mistakes. Look at me — I can misspell thigns too, I must be a bot.
Yeah that’s not really an answer, and the reason I’d like you to actually think about it is because I believe you’re confused what the difference is between a “bot” and a simple text generator.
I simply answered that. Bot output can have spelling errors. Nothing more was said or implied.
TIL I am a bot. :)
I also made it a point not to state anything is the best or the worst and mentioned that the choice is up to you and your threat model.
Also, thanks to @digger@lemmy.ca for pointing out my typos. I have fixed them now.
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Well now, that would’ve saved me a lot of time and research. I also wouldn’t have learned nearly as much from reading all the different privacy policies. Luckily, I didn’t do that which allowed me to create my own personal recommendations for my family and myself.
I want to reiterate that I have no affiliation with Kagi or any other search engine, I currently don’t even pay for Kagi. I am just a human on the hunt for the best search engine to protect my family’s privacy.
That said, I just saw your update regarding Sentry.
Looking at Kagi’s Privacy Policy, there are two things to say in response to
“We do not log or store your IP address. Your IP address is used only temporarily when enriching location/maps searches, and is not shared with any other party.”
“Anonymous logs are shared with Sentry when bugs, crashes, or warnings occur for debugging purposes.”
Also:
“Searches are anonymous and private to you. Kagi does not log and associate searches with an account.”