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    Checked the article, it’s talking about an oversight committee, not a secret police force

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      You quote the first line in the article. Go read the rest.

      It’s fucking worse than a police force.

      In the event that Gov Ops searches a person’s home, these rules mean that the person 1) must keep the entry a secret, 2) cannot seek outside help (unless necessary for fulfilling the request, the law says), and 3) could face criminal charges if Gov Ops deems them uncooperative.

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            Ruling class tightening its grip.

            They were successful in getting the working class to vote against their own interests since the late 60s.

            MKUltra was a success. They found out they couldn’t control people as easily with drugs, so they resorted to other means. i.e. pop culture and influencers.

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            There are 3 Americans.

            • One who is “patriot” republican
            • One who is stoned on weed.
            • One who doesn’t give a shit about what the other two does.

            Only one of them votes.

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        An important note from the article is that this committee has oversight over institutions who do business with the government, not just government employees. Received grant money, welp now Gov ops can take you down. Won’t be surprised to see it expand beyond institutions and start encompassing individuals, allowing them to take out receivers of social benefits

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          I only know what’s in the article. It’s way too crazy to explain in a few sentences.

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          So those people don’t deserve full protections of the constitution, privacy laws, lawyers if their stuff gets searched, and should be arrested if they don’t comply…?

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          And how the "special oversight committee " only works for roughly half of the state government but can still cause people to be fired for not obliging to the Republican will?

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            I hate to say it, man, but yeah, if you piss off the state government, and you work for them, they’re gonna fire you

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              From the article:

              But unlike other types of government watchdog groups, GovOps is partisan. Republicans dominate the body, and the group’s politics greatly influence the types of investigations it carries out. For example, Gov Ops launched an inquiry into diversity training programs at the University of North Carolina earlier this year.

              Do you not understand how dangerous it is to democracy to have a partisan police force? If not then I uge you to read about the start of WW2.

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                Every democracy has partisan oversight groups. I’ll get mad at their abuse, not their existence.

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                  Do you just enjoy playing devil’s advocate?

                  Nobody of sound mind could look at this and just think “Yep, this makes sense. One party should have a secret partisan police who can victimise other political parties and force them to stay silent about it, and comply without question, otherwise be criminally charged. This definitely won’t have any wider negative implications for society.”

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                  If you think republicans aren’t going to abuse a partisan police force then your concerns are void and you’re sleepwalking through life.

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                    I think it’s likely they will, and that every police force is partisan, and that they’ve been abusing that for decades.

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                  Every democracy has oversight groups, or an ombudsman. It’s not partisan

                  Imagine a similar situation in a European country having several parties and one party wanting the state budget to fund their investigation of the government. That shit would never see the light of day because there’d always be a majority against it. This only exists in USA because of the two party politics.

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      Yeah it’s an oversight committee in the same way that the “Committee of Public Safety” was concerned with public well-being.

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      Calling a secret police force something other than a police force is literally the most basic aspect of a secret police force.

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        Typically a secret police force has jurisdiction over more people than government employees and contractors.