• lnee@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Like for climate change bad solutions exist and if people are pushing back you should listen, a solution maby it’s not good anoth maby we are spending time getting bad solutions to work when we should work on find new solutions.

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      1 year ago

      Like for climate change, waiting and doing nothing when we already have a wealth of research on the subject will do much more damage than even the worse solutions that the data still supports [rather than moronic, unsupported solutions like giant ice machines].

      Like for climate change, the pushback is mainly based on people being paid to push back and the astroturfing funded by the same people in a litany of campaigns that have gone on for decades. People disagreeing do not, by the very fact of being “people disagreeing”, have a valid point, and usually they do not in the context of these subjects.

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              1 year ago

              Why ten? How many does “lithium batteries are made with a substantial amount lithium” count for?

              Beyond that, I’m not just some bullshit technocrat, I don’t believe that “innovating your way out of the apocalypse” is almost ever possible. Yeah, we should move away from car-centric infrastructure, which could be conflated for arguing for “green tech” because, compared to cars, trains, bikes, scooters, etc. are green tech, but overwhelmingly my suggestions are policy-side because stopping the destruction of the earth is not a sci-fi pipe dream, it is a materially feasible goal and has been for as long as capitalists have been destroying it.