• e$tGyr#J2pqM8v@feddit.nl
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    2 days ago

    Maybe it’s also something else, but it is nonetheless deportation too, and the definition she gives is not correct. Words have meanings and you can’t just pretend a different one to make a point.

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      1 day ago

      It’s also “sponsored flights”

      You can twist words however you want. These aren’t deportations, it’s literally the first stage of ethnic cleansing

      The spirit of the thing is what determines what word we use, not the definition of the word

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        11 hours ago

        What maybe confuses me is that the word deportation to me already has an intensely negative ring to it. Here in the Netherlands, if we hear the word deportation, I think most people instantly think of the Nazi-regime. Therefor I see no need for any other word to show how it’s actually awful. But perhaps the situation in the US is different when it comes to what associations are stuck to these words.

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          5 hours ago

          I mean, the Netherlands deports people, everyone does. It certainly has negative connotations, but there’s an implication of this being a process. Maybe not a fair process, maybe there’s corruption, but you get some kind of chance to argue why you shouldn’t be deported

          This isn’t that. Their taking people, many of them here legally, and rounding them up by proximity and skin color. Even citizens, though so far we have no known cases of citizens being held more than a few days.

          They’re holding them in inhumane ways that, by international definition, classify as torture. Then, for an indeterminate amount of time, they’re shuffled around so no one knows where they are - no access to family, no access to lawyers

          Finally, they’re shackled, both hands and feet, and strapped into military cargo planes. Hopefully heading back to their home country, or at least somewhere where they speak the language

          This isn’t deportations. This is not the legal process and physical acts of removing someone from the county… This is something entirely different