We’ve reached the second iteration. There isn’t a lot separating us from the third iteration. And the material conditions were bad enough, at the latest, sometime between the first and the second iterations.
People know socialism exists. People are experiencing sufficiently bad material conditions that they want change.
People have picked up neoliberal ideas from living in a neoliberal society. These ideas give people a framework to process their material conditions so that they do not rise up in sufficient numbers. People need to learn that these ideas are part of an ideology designed to enrich the owner class at the expense of the worker class. Things will continue to get worse unless people understand that everyone needs to own their work.
This education is work that still needs to be done after hypothetically defeating the current fascist dictatorships and is probably part of what will be needed to defeat them.
I keep having this conversation with people and seeing the accelerationist line of reasoning, so I wanted to address it with a visual.
No, see, there’s a difference between being good at using communication tools and being a bigot. That is part of the left’s issue, too. The goal isn’t to scapegoat the same people the right does, that typically does not work. The idea is to scapegoat the same people that are already being targeted (right wing politicians, large corporations, billionaires) effectively.
You keep using the word scapegoat ? I find the way you speak rather iffy in general
Aha. And that’s the left putting the aesthetics of progressivism over the ethics and the politics of progressivisim.
Again, I only care about talking like the good guys talk insofar it gets the good guys a position of political power. Not because we say the right things or we feel the right things or we have a consistent, morally homogeneous maximalist approach to improving the world, but because a butt in a chair can make the world marginally better for the rest.
I’d be more lenient and mushy about that if we weren’t in the process of the second rise of fascism. We’re kind of in panic mode now.
Scapegoating implies being deceitful. It’s not about aesthetics.
It is if the scapegoat is a rich guy without much actual influence but a flashy car. It is if it’s some rich weirdo’s kinks being paraded to make the moneyed class appear unethical or morally deranged.
Think about how bad one has to be at this to have lost the public argument regarding marginalized trans people being a moral risk while Trump and the British royalty were engaged in the whole Epstein fiasco. And that’s before the whole “lost in court to his pornstar lover” stuff went down.
And they still won, rallied religious leaders around them, won again and successfully convinced the populace that queer people will attack their kids in school.
It is political negligence of the highest order.
No, they just have more means and control the media. But again, your language use is bad. Scapegoating is inherently a word that describes a form of deceit.
Yeah.
Hey, guess what? Trump isn’t bad because he has a mushroom for a penis and had extramarital sex.
And no, they don’t have more means or control the media more than antivaxxers did. Or QAnon did. How did the fascists leverage those things into political support through social media and fringe publications but the left can’t get actual, legtimate issues to take the spotlight?
It’s not “being suppressed”. Let’s have a modicum of self-criticism. Take some responsibility at all. At some point. Please.
You won’t be convincing anyone like this
Well, no, but it’s hard to watch it all circle down the drain and not say anything.
Which is, I suppose, the underlying problem.
I’m still right, though.