Both suck to be fair but Israel for me suck less. My reasoning mostly stem on their Ideology. Israel leans more to the US. Israel though recently leaning more to the extreme right, is still liberal compared to the rest of the nations in middle east. Woman has more freedom under Israel it seems.LGBT is more supported in Israel. For Hamas on the other hand has the same vibe for me with Taliban it doesn’t help that it is supported by Iran and Russia. As for Ukraine I support them since they lean more to the West (EU and the US) and they are more democratic than Russia. That’s my thought anyway.
Weeeeeeell…I like the Irish and I think they’ve been awesome all around (the IRA and their support for Palestine), but even by their mythology they apparently did colonize their lands ages ago; something about defeating the Tuatha De Danann who themselves defeated the Fir Bolg and the Fomorians. The De Danann, Fir Bolg and Fomorians are depicted as inhuman beings but I personally think these were peoples who lived in extremely ancient Ireland who were defeated by the ancestors of modern day Irish people, but then, this would have been quite a few thousand years ago anyway and holding it against them would be silly (basically it was so long ago that it’s not even concrete whether this myth has any basis in reality and certainly no trace of those peoples, their culture and their civilizations still exist; also even if you decide to believe the myth has some basis in reality behind it, Irish culture has not been a culture of colonizers for the last several thousand years).
You should not. But you should see the conditions under which Hamas has formed and how the Occupiers are at fault for this. The greater Palestinian cause is far more in the moral right than Israel has ever been.
“I support the fascistsdoing a genocide because they’re aligned with us and do our bidding” is the kind of honesty we’re looking for from liberals on foreign policy.
Genuinely, thank you for your honesty. Can you please tell the rest of the libs to communicate like this and we wouldn’t be as mean to them.
To be fair that is what both sides are doing China, Russia, US, EU, India and Iran. They all support those who do their bidding. Though I have a feeling everything is fascist on your dictionary that does not align with your view.
Considering the United States is responsible for the majority of wars that have happened since WW2 and the pentagon is the worlds greatest emitter of greenhouse gasses, we’re the only country whose ever used Nukes, also the country with the most nukes, I think your concern for “cultural” differences is completely conceded, and ignorant, also probably coming from a place of overt or subconscious racism, which is sadly typical of westerners, especially Americans. America is so comically evil it makes North Korea look like a puppy (and I don’t but this axis of evil crap, America is the great satan).
There are plenty of places more “ethical” in the global south than the west- which again is mostly responsible for the planet burning down and endless global war- and they all pretty much align with Palestine. Not to mention Mass shootings and endless police violence is deeply rooted in settler colonialism, and ever present in colonizer and colonized countries. The west is a miserable and pathetic place, with awful values that constantly tries to hide behind a veil of homonationalism while being responsible for intentionally creating the most terrible, genocidal regimes abroad, like Israel. All y’all can do is cope, and seethe while the scientists brain drain off to China.
Both suck to be fair but Israel for me suck less. My reasoning mostly stem on their Ideology. Israel leans more to the US. Israel though recently leaning more to the extreme right, is still liberal compared to the rest of the nations in middle east. Woman has more freedom under Israel it seems. LGBT is more supported in Israel. For Hamas on the other hand has the same vibe for me with Taliban it doesn’t help that it is supported by Iran and Russia. As for Ukraine I support them since they lean more to the West (EU and the US) and they are more democratic than Russia. That’s my thought anyway.
So you support Israel committing genocide in Palestine because they lean west. Way to go lil bro
No surprise, given that genocide is the foundation of the western civilization.
Is there a single western civilization that wasn’t built in the flesh, bones, blood, and bile of the colonized tho? Like, one.
Ireland, though they are extremely supportive of Palestine.
They understand what it takes to get a boot off of your neck.
Weeeeeeell…I like the Irish and I think they’ve been awesome all around (the IRA and their support for Palestine), but even by their mythology they apparently did colonize their lands ages ago; something about defeating the Tuatha De Danann who themselves defeated the Fir Bolg and the Fomorians. The De Danann, Fir Bolg and Fomorians are depicted as inhuman beings but I personally think these were peoples who lived in extremely ancient Ireland who were defeated by the ancestors of modern day Irish people, but then, this would have been quite a few thousand years ago anyway and holding it against them would be silly (basically it was so long ago that it’s not even concrete whether this myth has any basis in reality and certainly no trace of those peoples, their culture and their civilizations still exist; also even if you decide to believe the myth has some basis in reality behind it, Irish culture has not been a culture of colonizers for the last several thousand years).
That’s because Ireland is a colonial victim, not a colonizer.
Yes.
I am still trying to find it, though. Error 404 keeps turning, help 😭
Curious, Tell me why should I support the Hamas instead?
You should not. But you should see the conditions under which Hamas has formed and how the Occupiers are at fault for this. The greater Palestinian cause is far more in the moral right than Israel has ever been.
Emotional responses don’t lead to any solutions. Only reason will create a peaceful two state solution.
The Victims should never bargain with the invaders. Slava Ukraini Slava Palestini.
“I support the fascistsdoing a genocide because they’re aligned with us and do our bidding” is the kind of honesty we’re looking for from liberals on foreign policy.
Genuinely, thank you for your honesty. Can you please tell the rest of the libs to communicate like this and we wouldn’t be as mean to them.
To be fair that is what both sides are doing China, Russia, US, EU, India and Iran. They all support those who do their bidding. Though I have a feeling everything is fascist on your dictionary that does not align with your view.
Counterpoint: aligning with the west/the US is bad.
And why is that?
All the genocide perhaps?
Counter-counterpoint : alternative is WAY worse. Unless you count EU as dissimilar to US?
He’s from hexbear, he only believes in Chinese totalitarian dictatorship.
Considering the United States is responsible for the majority of wars that have happened since WW2 and the pentagon is the worlds greatest emitter of greenhouse gasses, we’re the only country whose ever used Nukes, also the country with the most nukes, I think your concern for “cultural” differences is completely conceded, and ignorant, also probably coming from a place of overt or subconscious racism, which is sadly typical of westerners, especially Americans. America is so comically evil it makes North Korea look like a puppy (and I don’t but this axis of evil crap, America is the great satan).
There are plenty of places more “ethical” in the global south than the west- which again is mostly responsible for the planet burning down and endless global war- and they all pretty much align with Palestine. Not to mention Mass shootings and endless police violence is deeply rooted in settler colonialism, and ever present in colonizer and colonized countries. The west is a miserable and pathetic place, with awful values that constantly tries to hide behind a veil of homonationalism while being responsible for intentionally creating the most terrible, genocidal regimes abroad, like Israel. All y’all can do is cope, and seethe while the scientists brain drain off to China.
Oh boi that’s going to be fun.
You don’t stand my main point. US are bad sure, but the rest is just worse.
Also China brain draining scientists LOL and I’m the one coping?
Mask off lmao