https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdI1tsnlRoI
- Screen HDR10 Amoled has an insane 2600 nits!
- The screen is FLAT (Thank you Xiaome) 👍
- Cameras are amazing (Video slowmotion at 720p 960fps) 😋
- IP68 dust/water resistant
- 120 Watt Charger
- Mediatek Dimensity 9200+ (Claimed to beat Snapdragon 8 Gen 2)
- 4 generations up to Android 17 Android upgrades and 5 year security support
Obviously It has all the expected sensors and features.
The corners that were cut to get the price down are pretty few IMO:
- Gorilla Glass 5 instead of Victus.
- Plastic instead of Alu edge.
- No Wireless charging
Here (Denmark) the Xiaome 13T Pro is cheaper than One Plus 11, and it beats it in every aspect. It’s almost (but not quite) as good as the Samsung S23 Ultra. To me this seems by far the best option in the price range.
The non pro is $100 cheaper, and you get a slightly less powerful SOC, 67 Watt charger instead of 120, less RAM/Storage, although there are ranges for both.
Edit PS 09. Oct. 2023
Just ordered the pro version with 12 GB Ram and 512 MB storage for € 669,- including tax or USD 565,- excluding tax.
I was waiting for our Solar panels to go online, and that was finally finished today.
I originally planned to buy the One Plus 11, but the curved screen and opposing power/volume buttons turned me away from that.
I’m extremely excited as my current phone is a very cheap older budget phone (Moto G9 power). It has served me surprisingly well, considering it was sub $200 including tax.
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One thing I enjoy is buying cheap xiaomi smart home products and completely cutting them off from the internet.
Maybe I’m paranoid, but from a security and privacy perspective I can’t imagine buying a phone from them.
They have unlocked bootloaders unlike many manufacturers. I’m running a 11x on lineageOS and it works great.
If somebody would only male a ROM for them where you could maintain secure boot, that’d be a serious phone.
Absolutely NOTHING paranoid about not trusting China tech with eyes and ears on your house. Thats been proven too many times at this point.
Theres something slightly insulating about a US or other country having China build things to their spec as other companies have eyes on what’s being done, but a 100% China product, and the fact the Govt is involved with “private” companies… No way. Your move is correct.
except for the SOC
The SOC is supposed to be very good, especially the one in the Pro version, it’s a bran new SOC that is supposed to beat the Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, which is currently considered the best for Android on the market.
I can’t find comparing benchmarks yet, but for sure it’s better than the older gen, since it’s now based on the latest gen Arm, and the Pro has a way more powerful GPU.
Edit PS:
I found this Geekbench test, where it’s slightly faster than the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/MediaTek-Dimensity-9200-Processor-Benchmarks-and-Specs.752056.0.html
The GPU side is very fast too, it’s the Immortalis-G715 MC11 the newest most powerful original Arm GPU AFAIK.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/ARM-Immortalis-G715-MP11-GPU-Benchmarks-and-Specs.696447.0.html
Only Adreno 740 (Snapdragon 8 Gen 2) and Apple m1/m2 beat it in 3DMark. I saw a review that showed it maxes the frame-rate in all the games they tested. Unfortunately I can’t remember which, because I’ve basically seen all there are on YouTube yesterday.
Edit PPS:
The GPU is actually faster than iPhone 15 Pro Max!!
That’s because the iPhone throttles already after 2 minutes, and runs at only 65%, while the Xiaomi 13T Pro maintains 95% performance after ½ an hour of GPU intensive gaming.
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It also comes loaded with Google spyware. But since it’s an Android phone you could just flash it, no?
Yeah but it’s pretty good bcus you can just install a custom rom…
Xiaomi is probably the least affiliated of the lot, and they still offer a bootloader unlocking tool. Huawei on the other hand…
I don’t like how the knee-jerk reaction to anything China-made is, but I guess the Chinese aren’t helping themselves.
Maybe, I don’t think government officials should use Chinese phones. But for me personally, I don’t really think they do much spying on private citizens. What would be the point? In that regard I think Google and Apple are equally big concerns, but unfortunately you either have to live with that, or jailbreak your phone.
I used to do that, using Android AOSP without Google apps. As free as it gets. But honestly I can’t be bothered anymore. I wish there was a free option that has full functionality, but there isn’t, because the security features in everything official like public services and banking relies on the proprietary security features of either Google or Apple to work.
So unless our government gives a shit about this, I just have to accept the sorry state of lousy security our technology in general is in.
They spy on everything always regardless of the target. You may not know things personally, but you know someone that does and your device gives access to others. It’s about being everywhere always.
Again, if our government and intelligence services don’t care why should I?
I know one thing for sure, and that is our government (Denmark) allow and cooperate with USA to spy on us, I doubt they voluntarily do the same for China.
I prefer USA over China when it comes to international cooperation, but I don’t share the alarmist tendency some have towards Chinese phones. If China had systemic surveillance through phones, I’m sure it would be stopped by EU/USA government and intelligence services.
In short, I don’t believe your claim. Whereas Apple/Google are real problems.
Take Xiaomi phones with a pinch of salt. I’ve got the Mi 10t Lite 5g, and while it’s fairly decent, it’s got its share of problems too.
Every time the Xiaomi browser updated, it asks if it can be the default viewer for pdfs, no matter how many times you set your default as something else. I’ve uninstalled it now, but I’m pretty sure that it was happening with the video player too. Both would open a ‘Open with’ dialogue with the software as the preselected option, and ‘other’ for the second option, but pressing other would just launch a random selection from the list.
The camera is awful too. Using it in bright sunlight is ok, as long as you don’t want to zoom in. If you do, everything is blotchy? It looks as if it’s been zoomed in by an algorithm that got it wrong, and guessed what the pixels should look like. If you try to use the zoom while taking the photo, you sometimes get random blurred spots in the image. I took what would have been a great photo of my kid with their grandfather, but parts of the photo were randomly blurred.
They might have improved with the newer models, but I would want to see one in the flesh before I spent any money on one.
Don’t use Xiaomi apps if there are alternatives. The browser is one of the most annoying POS ever. The launcher too. I just swap out as many of the defaults as possible and use a debloater tool to remove all the unnecessary crud. Unlike Samsung’s bloat, the Xiaomi ones are annoying too.
Absolutely agree to that, I personally don’t use Chrome or Chromium. Just my little resistance against Google. ;)
IDK about the software, I know there is bloatware, but it should be possible to uninstall. The new MIUI 14 should be pretty good reviewers say.
The camera is absolutely amazing, no doubt about that. Just look it up on YouTube. Absolutely amazing night shots, and very good tele and macro too, although not as good as Samsung S23 Ultra.
I found this comparison very good, although I don’t agree with the conclusion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY01sKTnJPA&t=32s
I was able to remove some of the bloat using the Universal Android Debloater. If you do the same, remove a few things at a time and test in between. Removing the Xiaomi phone app stopped my dialler from putting the overlay on top of everything else.
The Mi 10t Lite camera looked great in reviews too. Like most reviews, the photos were taken under ideal conditions. It’s very rare to see real world photos, like trying to get a photo of a kid or a pet running around in poor lighting.
Here in Spain the non pro version is €250 cheaper (€650 vs. €900).
Wow, here the pro is 4990,- DKK = € 669,- for the 12 GB RAM / 512 GB SSD. Including 25% sales tax.
The non pro is 3990,- DKK = € 537,- for the 8 GB RAM / 256 GB SSD. Including 25% sales tax.
The Pro is an insanely good deal IMO.
Here’s a comparison of the Camera between iPhone 15 Pro Max, Galaxy S23 Ultra and Xiaomi 13T Pro.
I know we can’t expect it to beat those 2 others, but it’s matching them in most cases IMO.
It’s too fucking huge.
Haha I disagree on that, my current phone is 6.8 inches, I wouldn’t mind if it was slightly bigger. But I don’t want a foldable phone.
Not for somebody that actually uses a phone for stuff. 6-6.5" has become the norm.
Speaking of using the phone for stuff, this one doesn’t have a microsd card slot.
unfortunately this is the trend for high end phones. For some reason lower range phones are more likely to have it, just like the 3,5 inch minijack for headphones.
Phone makers claim it’s for better water resistance, except Nokia has one with the minijack that is waterproof.
Probably because its 2023 and shitty unreliable memory is only wanted by the 1% and people with incredible niche use cases.
Never had problem with any microsd card and I’ve been running them in smartphones since 2010. It’s not hard to buy a decent card.
Shrug I guess I just “actually use my phone for stuff”.
Not wanting to suck Spotifys dick shouldn’t be a niche use case.
I self host my music, not sucking anything. I can stream the rest privately with multiple methods.
That said, when I do want access to a Spotify playlist, thats what Spotube and a bullshit acct are for.
When I worked in phone sales, one of the biggest bitches that walked through the door was people with dead SD cards blaming us for losing all their data and the conspiracy theories that it was intentional. You’re lucky.
Streaming uses more battery and you can’t do it in the backwoods.
blaming us for losing all their data
I have absolutely no clue how that could work? Didn’t they install the SD cards themselves?
Damn right they did! Don’t try to apply common sense to it, because the customers never do. Its always somebody elses fault.
In a lot of cases it was buying shitty ones, because their absolutely not all created equal, but after a while, you should move to new ones, nobody ever did. Then you had the first couple Galaxy’s that just murdered them all regardless. Being a privacy guy, I’m not pro cloud (but) going to real hardware memory and cloud backups is the only good move for the masses.
Absolutely, we use MicroSD all the time for our Raspberry Pis, It’s fast compact and cheap.
These phones only have USB2, so for fast transfer, you have to use something cloud based. A MicroSD would have been nice.
Considering the USB is only 2.0 it might have been handy in some cases.
