I don’t know, sometimes the though of “what if all my leftist ideas are false? What if trans people are just mentally ill? What if gay people are just deviants?”
I honestly really don’t like it…
It’s good to question your beliefs I guess, it’s how you grow, but it sometimes makes me really uncomfortable. Why does this happen? Can I stop it? Should I?
It’s a good thing to question your beliefs every once in a while. Sometimes people get things wrong, and sometimes ideas need re-evaluated.
The way I look at gay/trans/etc is to take MLK Jr’s advice: judge people by the content of their character.
It’s important to question your beliefs when presented with evidence. My views on pacificism have loosened a lot, for example.
But the two view you mention are ones where the left is objectively correct. Homosexual behavior is a biological fact in almost all animals and non-binary gender systems exist across the breadth of human cultures.
Any belief system which serves as a permission structure for brutalizing others can safely be rejected as false.
pacificism
Hmmmmm
Lol oops. I have no specific thoughts on pacificism, truth be told.
I’m more of an atlanticist myself.
I live on the east coast of Australia, so I guess I’m a pacificist and didn’t even know it.
Daily, but on a much smaller, pettier scale. What if I’m wiping my ass wrong? Nobody taught me exactly how to do it, and it’s not like anybody is around to notice and say “hey, you know you do it like this?”
I try not to think about my own opinions on big picture stuff as I can spiral fast.
As a bidet owner, let me tell you that only wiping water to dry yourself is the best way to wipe.
You’re using all 3 of the shells, right?
One up, one down, and one to polish!
Those happen too honestly lol. “What if I’ve been reading wrong all my life, somehow”
What, like backwards?
I think with some things (like reading or skydiving), there are pretty fast feedback loops that tell you if you’re doing it wrong.
As a trans person, I have various mental illnesses. None of them is ‘being trans’, bit it’s likely some of them are related, particularly gender dysphoria. In regards to your actual question, I’m so glad you’re evaluating your beliefs! Everyone should deconstruct and know why they believe the things that they do - and if there’s no good reason, to stop believing them - regularly. It’s the sign of a curious and humble mind.
It’s pretty normal. There’s a graph that plots confidence as you gain new skills or knowledge, and it sounds like you’re on the down-slope of Mt Stupid and coming into the Valley of Despair.
I have spent my life learning for fun and if I can be said to have learned anything about the process it’s that the more you learn the better you understand just how vastly complex everything is, how many ways you could be wrong, and how insufficient your earlier simple assumptions were. Like yeah, maybe trans people are just mentally ill because there have been a few cases where that seems to be the case. But does that make it okay to deny all of them the agency and dignity of being able to decide who they want to be? Even if we define gender-affirming care as ‘harm’, we seem fine as a society with people harming themselves with stuff like cigarettes, why are we not fine with people ‘harming themselves’ with gender-affirming care?
At the end of the day the question you have to ask yourself is: would you rather never be made uncomfortable by this realization that things are more nuanced htan you thought, or would you rather have the most accurate information about the world that you can get? Because you can’t have both.
No way, that’s just science, baby! (Edit: OK, and philosophy)
I think those questions need to be followed through with a chain of reasoning and questions, not denial. There’s usually lots of options.
So for that “gay people are deviants” question, a “no they aren’t” answer isn’t helpful, because it’s faith based, which leads to a shutdown of thinking and curiosity.
Another line might be: if they are, then does that mean that the tens or hundreds of other animal species with documented existence of homosexuality are also deviants? Can an animal be a deviant? Seems unlikely… Does that mean that maybe deviance is a dodgy concept? What does it actually mean? Does it mean a thing is fundamentally bad, or does it just mean that it doesn’t fit with a particular value system? If that’s the case, and I personally know a bunch of gay people who are really lovely people, is it possible that it’s the value system that’s the problem, not the gay people?
There’s usually plenty of other chains of thought that will get you to a place like this. Doing this kind of thought exploration also means that when you come up against someone making that argument in public, then you have a better idea where you stand, and you can potentially engage constructively with them, if they seem open to it.
The mile markers along the road to truth are ideas we used to believe were true.
Further truth can only be obtained by holding currently accepted truth to the highest standards of scrutiny.
This is good, but I’d add that you can get closer, and you can get closer faster, but truth will always be over the horizon.
*whether
Whoops!
no, it’s not weird. you gotta stay open minded.
If it’s weird, we can be weird together.
The real measure of whether or not an idea is true, at least in personal view, is how well does it hold up to your internal concept of ideal self?
We do not possess a source of universal truth. Sure, there’s math and elaborate painstaking work done by scientists to identify what is true to the best of our knowing, but none of that is a “universal” truth.
After all, 1 + 1 = 2 only works when both of the 1s are the same things.
1 apple plus 1 orange does not equal 2 apples, you know?
Going back to the main point, if your version of your ideal self prefers for other people to be happy so that you can live in a world with as many happy people as possible, then ideally, leftist concepts and trans rights would be a truth for you.
What would matter to you about the lives and sexualities of other people is: are they happy?
If they are, great!
If they aren’t, treat them as they want to be treated in that situation.
I assume that that is something akin to your ideal version of you.
If it is not, I’m not properly equipped to identify for you what is truth.
But I will say this: if you think that trans people or gay people are deviants or messed in the head, what does it matter to you?
If the entire nation of bumfuckistan started having gay sex from 8.30 to 5, Monday through Friday, what does that matter to you?
How are you affected by the actions of other people that you never interact with, that you never encounter, and that you never see?
Even if it is the most degenerate, horrible thing that can ever happen, it’s between two consenting adults.
They’re not going to hold you down and make you watch. You won’t even ever know it’s happening.
So why would you even give the first fucking thought about it?
I do this often and it can feel like the bottom of my existence fell out. But I always end up back where I started after using logic and my understanding of the world. It’s probably good to reality check yourself every so often
There’s one single thing in the entire universe that I’m absolutely certain of - something nothing could ever change my mind about: the fact that it feels like something to be. That there’s qualia, subjective experience. I could be a simulation, a brain in a vat, or something else entirely - but it’s undeniable that it is like something to be whatever “me” is. Everything else is up for debate.
Now, sure - there are things it would take a lot to convince me otherwise about, but I’m also not married to my ideas. I don’t attach my identity to them. I’ve been wrong before, and I’m almost certainly wrong about plenty of things even now. I don’t reject ideas just because I don’t like them. There are uncomfortable truths in this world, and not believing them doesn’t make them untrue. Even politically, it would be statistically absurd to think one side is right about everything and the other side is wrong about everything. It’s a mix. The challenge is figuring out where you are mistaken.
As for the examples you mentioned - homosexuality and transsexuality are human-made labels, ways to describe patterns we see. But like all labels, they’re rough generalizations. The differences between individuals even within these groups are vast - so much so that it starts to put the usefulness of the label itself into question. Personally, I’m just me. Tomorrow I’ll be a slightly different version of me. I don’t even fully identify with who I was yesterday - let alone some rigid label that society wants to stick on me.
Great, go with that, what if?
What if trans people are just mentally ill? Well, if they’re mentally ill then that implies that there’s a cure, we don’t know what that cure is, therefore treating it like an illness is pointless. Instead we should treat it like a condition, i.e. something that the person has to live with. Other examples of conditions are ADHD or Autism, and how do we deal with those? Well, the first step is always for the person to accept that they have that condition and make arrangements so that they can live a “normal” life, these might include taking prescription drugs to normalize their brain chemistry but also behavioral and environmental changes to make their situation more comfortable, including asking people to have leniency on stuff like tardiness which is difficult for them to control. And how is that any different from a trans person taking hormones and asking people to use different pronouns? Why does it matter to me if the person wants to transition? It’s their body, I don’t care if someone does plastic surgery to change their nose, why should I care about their genitalia?. So what if being trans was a mental illness? Until a cure is found nothing changes, whenever a cure gets found then we can reopen the discussion, but unless a person is being a menace to others I oppose the idea of mandatory treatment, so it would be up to trans people whether they wanted to change their body or their minds, and I know what I would choose 100% (I’m a mind, I have a body, changing my body doesn’t change who I am, so that’s an easy choice for me).
What of gay people are just deviants? First you would have to define deviant, but in any sense of that word it honestly doesn’t matter, because what two consenting adults decide to do, deviant or not, is their own business. So why should you care?. The only “valid” answer here that I can think of involves religion, but we live in a secular society, where we recognize freedom of religion, therefore your religious ideas can’t be imposed onto others, so it’s not a valid argument in our society either.
So long story short, what if trans are mentally ill? Nothing changes, they should still be able to choose the sort of treatment they would prefer for their “illness”, and hormonal therapy, surgery and asking people to use different pronouns is a valid treatment. What if gays were deviant? Nothing changes, any group of people where all of them are consenting adults should be able to do whatever the hell they want to. So what if you’re wrong? You still should behave the way you already do, so nothing changes.