The Supreme Court on Monday turned away an appeal by a group of gun rights advocates seeking to overturn Maryland’s ban on assault-style rifles and high-capacity magazines under the Second Amendment.

The decision, a major win for gun safety advocates, leaves in place a ruling by the Fourth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals which ruled that the state may constitutionally prohibit sale and possession of the weapons.

The state legislation, enacted in 2013 after the Sandy Hook elementary school shooting, specifically targets the AR-15 – the most popular rifle in America with 20-30 million in circulation. They are legal in 41 of the 50 states.

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    My opinion on gun control has changed over the years.

    I used to be very anti gun. didn’t really see the point of regular people having them.

    Today though, me giving up my guns would be like Ukraine giving up their nukes but smaller.

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      I’m conflicted. On one hand, I don’t want somebody’s hobby to be the reason why school shootings persist in the hundreds every year. On the other hand, the best way for minorities to protect their rights is to be armed and dangerous. I think the only way for certain to advance as a society is stricter gun laws overall to keep the impule purchases away.

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        Yeah, most of the restrictions are meaningless for preventing violence. We need to keep guns from people who shouldn’t have them, not stop people from getting suppressors for example.

        A major source is trying to restrict stuff that looks scary instead of actually tackling the issue.

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      The current laws surrounding guns in the US is probably going to make the inventable next civil war a lot worse in terms of deaths.

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        Who gives a fuck about death?!

        Your should give a fuck about living under dire conditions way way way way WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY THE FUCK MORE than fucking death.

        You’re going to fucking die.

        Now decide whether you die under the boot or not.

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      That could have been achieved 20 years ago with logical induction on a few things and a thought experiment.

      Also Ukraine gave up its nukes voluntarily , and the common opinion was that the Cold War is over and nobody is going to need weapons, except for fighting criminals and terrorists. Russia didn’t ask for Ukraine’s nukes so persistently. USA did, but not everything USA demanded in those years was given.

      So the analogy is very fine, it was also understood to be a mistake to give Russia those nukes even before the first Maidan. Somewhere around second Chechen war.

      Humanity is stupid.

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      me giving up my guns would be like Ukraine giving up their nukes

      The Ukrainians that controlled the nukes were Soviets. They gave them up as part of non-proliferation agreements intended to disarm Russia.

      Western Liberals didn’t want Viktor Yanukovych commanding a nuclear arsenal. You guys seem to have forgotten everything prior to Maidan

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      There’s no good reason to need a high powered semiautomatic rifle, anything you need can be done with a bolt action rifle.

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        When the Christian militias come for me I want to be able to lay down suppressive fire 🤷🏻‍♀️

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          When you’re alone, it’s a bad idea to waste ammo on this.

          But firing bursts makes targeted fire better, so semi-auto is needed, yes.

          Just not for anything suppressive, that’s for people with a mounted machine gun with enough ammo to be limited by barrel temperature

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              Real life shot guns are effective at a longer range than video games. Not counting the various ammunition types you can use. Birdshot might not kill at 100 yards, but you’re still not wanting to get hit by it, especially near the face.

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                Birdshot from 100 yards will hurt less than a paintball at 50 yards. Birdshot at 100 yards likely wouldn’t even break the skin of a human. And you’re trying to tell me about video games? Fucking pistols are basically useless at 100 yards, let alone a shotgun. And in the non-existent situation where you knew what you’re talking about, I single shot targets with iron sites from 500m with an m249, which isn’t as accurate as an m16, m4, or m14 etc.

                So tell me again about how life isn’t like a video game. My guess is that you’ve never even held one considering how many wrong points you had in only 3 sentences. And even shotgun slugs are inaccurate at a distance. Saying things as fact as if you know things you don’t, is how we got trump in the White house.

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                  Making a claim stating I have “wrong points” while making a bunch of false claims and for some reason bragging about video games, doesn’t mean you are correct in anything you said.

                  Please go get shot in the face by bird shot from 100 yards and report back to us.

                  Please also stop comparing real guns to video games if you’ve never fired a gun before.

                  I also don’t know where you got “three” from, but it’s pretty clear you are delusional and live outside reality.

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                    Zero experience USING shotguns doesn’t mean I don’t know ranges of weapons. Beyond 50m a pistol is essentially worthless. I qualified expert on the US army on the M9. I feel that is enough relevant experience to know that a fucking shotgun has less range than a pistol. Quit trying to go through my shit for some kind of gotcha when it doesn’t exist. It’s shameful that you went to such effort for such little result and still acted like you made some point with it. Put at least one round downrange before you say something about it.

                    Edit: also, you were the one who mentioned video games first, not I.

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          Current events show that guns are pretty useless against dictators, people do just happily vote them in power. The right to free education would have been a better weapon.

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            Just shut the fuck up if you don’t know history. Seriously. You don’t need to respond to everything when you don’t know what you’re talking about. Just shut the fuck up. It’s a virtue, I promise.

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              Of all ways to get rid of dictators you choose Lybia as a good example. I rest my case.

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                Lol, that nose stuck straight up in the air is going to obstruct your target acquisition.

                I said dictators have been taken down with items less deadly than a gun, and you say “la la la I can’t hear you!”

                And you think it’s a gotcha as the cherry on top!

                Introspection must be your dump stats.