Other than them both being dickheads

  • theneverfox@pawb.social
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    2 days ago

    Pretty much. Trump is charismatic… But his brain is leaking out his nose and he wasn’t very smart to begin with. Elon is effectively dumber, because trump knows he’s in this to get his bread buttered - Elon might have more ram, but he doesn’t understand the difference between con and reality

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      20 hours ago

      Maybe it’s being neurodivergent but I have never understood his “charisma”. He’s always been a vile, crass, babbling, moron whose only “secret” to deal making had been finding rubes that didn’t think his lifetime of theft of service, as well as just plain theft (that for was never prosecuted as it should have been because white collar crime) magically wouldn’t apply to them.

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        15 hours ago

        I mean, I’ve never enjoyed watching him speak, but charisma isn’t just being convincing. It’s controlling the atmosphere, controlling the conversation, making people cheer

        You don’t have to buy it to recognize charisma. People undeniably were taken in by it. He says the stupidest, most incoherent shit… But people still ate it up

        If you want to truly understand, pick one of his older speeches, and watch it. Then, read the transcript. Even if you hate every moment of both, the difference is staggering

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          I get it but don’t “get it”. I suppose I tend to think in terms of small groups rather than manipulating crowds of rubes that have been keeping in a state of perpetual outrage through decades of right-wing talk radio and TV, and are so desperate to be told what to do that P. T. Barnham would say “Hey now, that crosses a line.”

          I’d still suggest that it might be less charisma and more an audience so primed that they’re near auto-ignition being subjected to a Hitler-fanboy who picked up a few things from professional wrestling.

          Then again, I also don’t “get” celebrity worship and numerous other NT things.