• vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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    15 hours ago

    And there’s another factor, out of any militarized element in the US the national guard have the potential to be the least threatening. They were affected by the post Vietnam reforms just like the rest of the branches, especially after Kent state. Fact of the matter is the guardsmen are far more likely to take issue with ICE and the police in general, reminder that quite a few came forward after the BLM protests saying they wanted to defend the protestors from the police.

    Mind you that doesn’t eliminate risks involved but it does mean that there is far far more potential for this to utterly backfire in Trump’s face.

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      10 hours ago

      reminder that quite a few came forward after the BLM protests saying they wanted to defend the protestors from the police.

      And did they? No.

      They are cowards who do what they’re told. After this is over, they will do the same. Disobeying or having remorse now would just be all too inconvenient… Saying “sorry, I actually didn’t want to be Gestapo, but did it anyways” is not a valid defense.

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        10 hours ago

        The foundation of action is started with but a single brick. The National Guard weren’t rolled out till later on into the BLM protests after they had in many ways started to wind down and stabilize. The current Guardsmen are being deployed at the start, after already being fucked over by Trump via VA cuts and other more general bullshit.

        Call me general wait and see but it’s too early to make any calls with too many factors, this could turn into a massacre, a revolution, or the Guardsmen could get pissed off and butcher ICE. It’s still too early and chaotic to make calls. Not like I’m any help beyond trying to cool nerves, too volatile to protest and I am reliant on my MAGA grandmother. Pisses me the fuck off that I have to live through this bullshit.

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          Not like I’m any help beyond trying to cool nerves, too volatile to protest and I am reliant on my MAGA grandmother.

          I mean she’s not gonna disown you… right?

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            Probably not but it’s the difference between going under the radar and being scrutinized. She would likely push me to move to the cabin in Idaho if I did something, which frankly speaking would be a far worse position to be in.

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            I had an elderly parent threaten to throw me out onto the streets. They had fallen, I called the fire department for help, and asked if they could send personnel the same gender as my parent. Ever since being threatened for trying to be considerate, I haven’t trusted that parent ever since.

            Sure, it might be dementia or something…but I still can’t help but feel that was my parent’s genuine feelings about me.