Easier said than done, most of europe is currently governed by the far right (or ‘conservative’ and ‘social democratic’ parties that copy a lot of the far right’s policies). US citizens will generally have an easier time immigrating than e.g. Syrian citizens, but the anti-immigration policies still hurt everyone.
Wtf are you on about? There are a handful of hard right govts in Europe currently, but the majority of Europe is not, in fact by US standards you’d probably consider most parties here left wing (the US Democrats would be considered a right wing party here lol)
Immigration is also quite easy for an American, definitely easier than if you’re from the middle-east. If you’re capable of getting a qualified/skilled job or studying you can generally stay as long as you want in most places, and native English speakers are in demand.
Do you really believe that someone like Friedrich Merz, who is pretty much the norm for EU government leaders at this point, is more progressive than a Joe Biden or Kamala Harris? The guy literally got elected with an anti-immigration campaign.
CDU is center right by normal terms, so no, Merz as an individual is likely not more progressive than Biden or Harris. But because the existing systems that Biden, Harris, and Merz occupy are radically different, the ultimate effect of their politics isn’t decided exclusively by some meter of how progressive they are. Anti-immigration vis-a-vis Germany is very different to anti-immigration vis-a-vis the US, for example. (edit: bad example)
What I mean to say is that a conservative led government in Europe, such as Germany under Merz, will still be much, much more progressive than a progressive led government in the US (i.e. hypothetically Harris with dems controlling the house and senate). This is because progressive issues like gun control and healthcare are unrealistic dreams even for Dems in the US, while they are established policy in Germany, that even Merz will not change.
So while you are right that Harris and Biden are, as individuals, more progressive than Merz, I think that in the grand scheme of things this does not show itself in the governments that they would run. This is also often what is meant with “Europe’s Right is America’s Left.”
I disagree with that. Specifically for immigration, a Democrats-led USA is much more immigration-friendly (at least in places where MAGAs are not the majority) than Germany (and probably many if not most other EU-countries) ever was, both in terms of policy and in terms of how welcoming the population is.
If I got a job in Europe… at this point, I’d just move to Europe.
Easier said than done, most of europe is currently governed by the far right (or ‘conservative’ and ‘social democratic’ parties that copy a lot of the far right’s policies). US citizens will generally have an easier time immigrating than e.g. Syrian citizens, but the anti-immigration policies still hurt everyone.
Ah yes. Anything to the right of communism is far right.
If you honestly believe that there’s anything progressive about Labour under Keir Starmer or the German SPD, I got a bridge to sell.
So now not being progressive is far right. Also there’s 2 countries in the EU. Got it.
I said that they’re copying many far right policies, not that they are far right themselves.
Wtf are you on about? There are a handful of hard right govts in Europe currently, but the majority of Europe is not, in fact by US standards you’d probably consider most parties here left wing (the US Democrats would be considered a right wing party here lol)
Immigration is also quite easy for an American, definitely easier than if you’re from the middle-east. If you’re capable of getting a qualified/skilled job or studying you can generally stay as long as you want in most places, and native English speakers are in demand.
Do you really believe that someone like Friedrich Merz, who is pretty much the norm for EU government leaders at this point, is more progressive than a Joe Biden or Kamala Harris? The guy literally got elected with an anti-immigration campaign.
CDU is center right by normal terms, so no, Merz as an individual is likely not more progressive than Biden or Harris. But because the existing systems that Biden, Harris, and Merz occupy are radically different, the ultimate effect of their politics isn’t decided exclusively by some meter of how progressive they are.
Anti-immigration vis-a-vis Germany is very different to anti-immigration vis-a-vis the US, for example.(edit: bad example)What I mean to say is that a conservative led government in Europe, such as Germany under Merz, will still be much, much more progressive than a progressive led government in the US (i.e. hypothetically Harris with dems controlling the house and senate). This is because progressive issues like gun control and healthcare are unrealistic dreams even for Dems in the US, while they are established policy in Germany, that even Merz will not change.
So while you are right that Harris and Biden are, as individuals, more progressive than Merz, I think that in the grand scheme of things this does not show itself in the governments that they would run. This is also often what is meant with “Europe’s Right is America’s Left.”
Edit: Merz, not März; thanks for the correction.
FYI, it’s Merz, not März.
I disagree with that. Specifically for immigration, a Democrats-led USA is much more immigration-friendly (at least in places where MAGAs are not the majority) than Germany (and probably many if not most other EU-countries) ever was, both in terms of policy and in terms of how welcoming the population is.
Ah you may be right vis-a-vis immigration. Germany is not the most inviting place…
And I knew I shouldn’t have trusted my autocorrect on März! Goddamn you Google keyboard shakes fist at sky