Hamas has called on Palestinians to stay in their homes after Israel issued sweeping evacuation orders for almost half of Gaza’s more than 2.3 million people ahead of an expected ground offensive.

The Hamas authority for refugee affairs today told residents in the north of the territory to “remain steadfast in your homes and to stand firm in the face of this disgusting psychological war waged by the occupation”.

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    Gaza is more densely populated than LA and they have no electricity, water, or fuel.

    The only exit is thru Egypt, and Israel keeps blowing it up.

    Even if the message got to everyone, there’s no way people could do what Israel told them.

    Israel knows this. They weren’t trying to “help” by announcing they’re going to flatten half of Gaza, they want to cause panic and riots.

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      In this specific case isreal asked residents of Gaza city, a subpart of the Gaza strip to move to a more southern position in the Gaza strip. Like asking people to move from Manhattan to Brooklyn because they are going to blow up Manhattan. People are capable of moving within the Gaza strip. That doesn’t mean there will be housing for them however.

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        That doesn’t mean there will be housing for them however.

        Or food… Or water…

        Or shelter for a few days from now when Israel starts bombing the southern half.

        All this is doing is motivating residents of Gaza to pick up arms against Israel.

        Which a cynic would say is exactly what Israel wants

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          Hamas has been teaching them to pick up arms against Israel. Did you already forget what happened 6 days ago?

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            Teaching and motivating are two different things. Heck, they are even different words!

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            So the answer of Israel of what happened 6 daysis to kill even more civilians and to create unimaginable humanitarian catastrophe in an already occupied territory. And what do you think this will achieve? Hint, it is not going to be exactly long lasting peace.

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        Like asking people to move from Manhattan to Brooklyn because they are going to blow up Manhattan

        Even if this analogy was representative, this would ALSO be a complete mess to try and do and that’s in a city with working roads, fuel, transportation options, easy access to telecoms/information, and support personnel. Even with all that, it would not be possible to do in 24 hours.

        I don’t think the analogy helped

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          Hamas is telling them not to even try. Not because it is logistically challenging, but because they want more Palestinian deaths. That’s inhumane.

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            I am not defending the atrocities of Hamas, but what Israel is systematically doing with Palestinians isn’t exactly a role model.

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            I agree that they should try, that wasn’t the part I was commenting on

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      Not true. Israel has given specific instructions to the UN and the Palestinian people where it is safe for them to go in Gaza.

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            A random guy on the Internet says it’s false. MSN says it’s true.

            Gee, who should I believe? /S

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                I did. To quote:" Most of the travelers were Dual European-Palestinian families fleeing out of Gaza," Younis Tirawi, a Palestinian reporter, posted on X, along with a video of the chaos shortly after the strike landed. “There were casualties.” The video appeared to show people screaming and running away as smoke billowed near the crossing…

                … After the strike, IDF officials said the Rafah border crossing between the Gaza Strip and Egypt was not the specific target in the counter-attack against Hamas and that the bombs were intended to strike an underground smuggling tunnel nearby, per CNN."

                Sure sounds like they targeted and hit the border crossing to me. “Nearby” is ambiguous. Could be a mile, could be five feet. “Wasn’t a specific target” implies it was a general target. Otherwise, the statement should have read “was not a target.”

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                  The accusation is that it is intent to kill civilians. The article doesn’t suggest intent. Appears to be unfortunate collateral damage. That’s far different from the original posters position that this is Israel’s attempt at genocide. Not saying war isn’t messy. This is unfortunate and there will be civilian casualties. The Palestinians should choose better leaders that want peace, not those that have a charter of war.

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                    Check again the numbers of the civilian casualties on both sides and tell me how unfortunate they are.

                    Believe me, by the time this escalation ends, the number of the victims of the Palestinian side would be more than 10K. And that would be the direct, the indirect ones, due to lack of food and water would be even more.

                    And I think after this conflict, even tougher restrictions would be imposed on both Gaza and the West Bank, which would make their lives even harder. Not to mention how many people would have lost their homes and all their possessions.

                    Can you imagine something like this happening to you, your friends, your family, how exactly would you feel? Serious question!

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                    That may be your opinion. My opinion is that the worst case scenario is that they were purposely targeted. Best case is that the IDF views them as fortunate casualties. After all, why should the IDF care about human animals?

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              From the article you posted:

              After the strike, IDF officials said the Rafah border crossing between the Gaza Strip and Egypt was not the specific target in the counter-attack against Hamas and that the bombs were intended to strike an underground smuggling tunnel nearby, per CNN.

              The IDF also issued a clarification later Tuesday, after the strike near the Rafah crossing, saying there is “no official call by Israel for residents of the Gaza Strip to exit into Egypt,” the Times of Israel reported.

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                Whatever the case, they bombed it. They should have known the variability in where it would land and called off the operation when they saw the humanitarian corridor was in that zone.

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                  Was anybody actually hurt?

                  Telling people to go to an area and then bombing a valid target next to it is scary, sure, but it’s not a deliberate attempt to kill civilians.

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                  War is messy. Collateral damage is unfortunate. What Hamas did last Saturday wasn’t collateral damage.

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                Lmao and you take them at face value. You’re either a shill or gullible as fuck.

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                  I tried browsing his comment history because I had the same assessment, and honestly, it’s 50/50.

                  My best guess is that he’s just so fervently pro-Israel that if he ever comes across anything that doesn’t 100% confirm his own biases, he immediately turns away.