• philpo@feddit.org
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    12 hours ago

    The question I ask myself is: You have that much money,you have a private jet on standby, a large security detail.

    And none fucking thought about getting competent medical team or at least a fucking competent paramedic? I mean…I am generally unsympathetic amongst almost all billionaires, but as someone who has literally done VIP escorts as a critical care paramedic I wonder who fucked up that much.(But these were all “old wealth” and actually were not billionaires. And tbh they treated us with more respect than most members of the public do-that gives them at least some plus point)

    It’s not like Airway obstruction nor anaphylaxis is untreatable/isn’t absolutely manageable if caught early.

    Anyway, can we please get a fundraiser for the poor queen of that bee?

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      2 hours ago

      Anyway, can we please get a fundraiser for the poor queen of that bee?

      It’s on the front page of GoFundBee!

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      11 hours ago

      Any med school student should know how to macguyver an airway in an emergency. They literally teach it in civilian lifesaving classes these days. My guess is this guy was such an asshole, his entire medical staff was like “bruh I am not making the hole, you do it.”

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        11 hours ago

        I don’t know which med school or civilian lifesaving courses you attend - but emergency cricothyrotomy surely isn’t a skill that is taught and mastered by any of these I teach.

        Cric is a delicate skill that needs repetition and knowledge - it’s far from easy and not even close to what is shown in some bad TV shows.

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          44 minutes ago

          As a civilian what I know is hit the notch in hard cartilege approx 2 fingers below the Adam’s apple, incision half an inch deep, and if you get the tube in you have to breathe for them.

          And that you should only do it if there are no medical people present and the person is obviously dying.

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            13 minutes ago

            So… how do you tell an airway obstruction requiring an improvised tracheotomy and a similarly-presenting respiratory distress (resulting from, say, catastrophically low blood potassium) apart? Because if you get that wrong suddenly someone, who needed at worst an hour of IV therapy and a flintstone chewable to make a full recovery, is drowning in their own blood.

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              10 minutes ago

              Thank you, this is the kind of reply I was hoping for. I would love more information.

              So, if the person has completely stopped breathing, and ambulances are 20+ minutes away, should I limit my response to attempted CPR?

              Is it your opinion even if they have been stung by a bee etc?

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          6 hours ago

          Eh I have no knowledge about tracheotomy besides what I’ve seen on TV but I mean if push comes to shove I’m just gonna jab a pen tube in the victim’s throat man, it’s gotta be worth a try. /s

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            5 hours ago

            Hell, I’d jab a pen in your throat right now if I suspected it would somehow improve your health

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          11 hours ago

          iirc Epi-pen is the usual treatment, and those things are pretty easy to obtain.

          I think that OP philpo is on to something, that the medical staff was a bit slow to deal with the situation.

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            4 hours ago

            With anaphylactic shock, the timeline could be literally seconds. He could be dead before they even figure out what’s wrong.

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            5 hours ago

            Honestly, I think it was ignorance and/or hubris. He was either unaware of his allergy (miraculously never stung before, or developed allergy later in life), or he was kind of aware, but never assumed anything could go wrong.

            “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.” – Hanlon’s Razor.