• Solumbran@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    So your stance is “genocide is bad so people shouldn’t say that Israel is committing genocide”?

    I’m sure after all that you have a honest point and that you didn’t post something aimed at causing conflict, especially with your generalisations and complaining about lemmy as a whole to mean “people who don’t agree with me”

    I have yet to see someone talking about how “lemmy is always wrong” on lemmy, that doesn’t have a shitty attitude aimed at just causing chaos.

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      19 hours ago

      It’s truly amazing how some people manage to miss the point so extraordinarily that they arrive at a conclusion which has nothing to do with anything I said or implied.

      By all means, the Israeli leadership and military should b critizized for all the horrendous war crimes they’re committing. But can we please do so without glorifying a looming counter genocide? Apparently not!

      • FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com
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        19 hours ago

        Israel is not a legitimate state, and should never have existed in the first place

        The stolen lands should be returned

        The residents can choose whether or not they want to live in Palestine, Syria etc. rather than Israel. International watchdogs can ensure that the residents of their new countries aren’t being shat on, but their unpopularity is entirely of their own making

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      19 hours ago

      Na, it’s there. Lemmy’s just doing Lemmy things.

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        19 hours ago

        Wasn’t worth the wait. I have yet to meet someone pro Israeli genocide who doesn’t think the history of the region starts at the last time they can remember a Muslim doing something wrong.

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          19 hours ago

          In short, you’re once again proving my point.

          BTW, I’m explicitly contra any genocide. Which includes genocide on Israelis!

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            19 hours ago

            Not really… Iran and Houthis do bad things, so does Hamas, but we don’t look at the little baby trees when we see the conflict, we look at the monstrous forest of horrendous shit Israel has done, and continues to do. Iran is not an ethnostate, Israel is. Your hive mind barbaric Muslim neighbors argument falls well short and you look like a concern troll. If you knew enough to be antigenocide here then you’d also well understand why the Israeli ethnostate should be dissolved and those there should be given equal rights for once in their lives.

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              19 hours ago

              You are aware that muslim citizens of Israel (which do exist and make up 14% of the population) do have exactly the same rights as every other citizen? And yes, we do look at the “little baby trees” because they ar not in fact little baby trees. Iran has done far worse than anything Israel has ever done. Or have you already forgotten about what happened to all the protests against the Iranian leadership and who brought the Taliban back to power in Afghanistan?

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                All it takes is Google search to see they do not have exactly the same rights, and you are entirely unconvincing of your opposition to genocide when you deny apartheid. Iran’s actions being worse than Israeli actions immediately harkens back to my original point, which is that I’ve never talked to a progenocider that didn’t think history began at the last time they remember a Muslim doing something bad. Answering bad faith with good faith is a gift, you’re welcome.

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      19 hours ago

      Can’t we agree that genocide is bad no matter what side does it? It’s getting quite hard to feel sympathy for the Palestine supporters when their solution to the whole conflict seems to be a reverse genocide.

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    15 hours ago

    My favorite was seeing the comments and memes today about Iran still being bad because they execute gays, while ignoring that Palestine also kills gays. Israel too.

    OMG all these “I’m not voting for the lesser evil” dumbass are in fact in favor of the lesser evil. Guess Muslims killing gays is okay.

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    20 hours ago

    Like seriously, I’ve yet to encounter a discussion where people accept that Israel is committing a horrendous genocide whithout these same people also being openly happy about the prospect of Iran or Lybia doing exactly the same to Israel.

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      Here I am, Israel is committing a genocide currently, but that doesn’t mean they don’t also have a right to live there, same as the Palestinians.

      So what do I win? Just being able to prove you either an idiot or a trouble stirrer? Meh, good enough for me, so now kindly fuck off.