This is textbook manufacturing consent. Maybe these people could benefit from a little history on how these people got into power, and what helps keep them in power. Big surprise, the same people that loves to bring up how terrible they are as they attack them.
I said tolerable to the media. Been barely discussed in UK media until Israel attacked them, now they’re scrambling to justify it based on how bad Iran is…
I’m not in the UK, but I recall Iran being in the media a lot in China and the US. Back when Trump assassinated one of their generals during his first term, the recurring abductions and rapes of women and young girls by the morality police that sparked nationwide protests, the arms they are providing for Russia in their invasion of Ukraine, and now Israel’s unprovoked attack on Iranian infrastructure and citizens.
What do you expect iran to do want the whole west is imposing severe sanctions harming regular citizens. Iran as no choice but to work with russia. Iran could have been an neutral country if americans, israelis and britosh didn’t support the shah coup
We saw how western and Israel intervention always has devastating effect to the population of those countries. The only rational way to think about this is Iran has to defend itself against foreign power known for indiscriminate destructions . Once once it is repealed . The Iranian population can fight against the regime
Basically nothing for 2 years (the protests ended), and the first term for Trump ended in 2021, so 4 years ago. The only thing I have seen is about arms sales, occasionally and it doesn’t express any opinion other than an Iran drone was used.
In the last few days since the attack, it’s quite a lot about nuclear weapons that may be 2 months, 2 years or a 20 years away, and now about journalists. Basically, the strategy has changed to bumping them up the enemies list to justify the attacks.
We don’t see much about the Syrian leader, as he’s not much of a terrorist now he’s working with the West.
It’s interesting how media can pivot their narratives about who the heroes and villains are at any time, and it’s always in line with government foreign policy.
Welp, you convinced me, I now support killing as many Iranians, men women and children, as it takes to save Iranians from the yoke of the Islamic Republic. /s
Waging war on Iran will not improve the situation of any Iranian, even the worst off. Do not use the name of the people who will be slaughtered by the millions for your warmongering propaganda.
Sadly, Iran has not been “tolerable to the media” in recent times.
(Example: a few months ago, their courts were discussing whether to sentence a rapper named Tataloo to death for “corruption on earth” - singing about the wrong things.)
Since they are now in war, media freedom in Iran is probably under the table.
In the UK they were not a problem. Not even discussed until Israel attacked and now they’re scrambling to paint them as the biggest evil to retroactively justify the attacks.
Media freedom is rubbish in Iran. They’re not good guys. However, media is silent on the number of journalists Israel has killed recently, and no, they’re not allowed in Gaza, so the threat of death and lack of freedom seems to apply to the aggressors also.
In reality, they should be clearly communicating this is 2 bad guys fighting this out. It’s obvious who the aggressor is who kicked off another front though.
Iran which was tolerable to media a few months ago
In what parallel reality do you live in ? It has been classified as one of the worse country for press freedom since years by RSF, they shutdown internet when things get out of hand and banned a lot of social medias.
If you read your sources, you’ll realise Palestine is the worst. “Palestine has become the world’s most dangerous state for journalists, as almost 200 reporters were killed in Gaza by the Israeli army over the first 18 months of war, at least 42 of whom were likely killed due to their work. In the West Bank, where journalists were already the victims of abuses by both the Palestinian Authority and the Israeli occupying forces, Israeli pressure has intensified since 7 October 2023, with an increase in arrests of reporters and obstructions to their work.”
2 bad guys are fighting it out here. One was an aggressor who started this conflict…
I said a few months ago. I’m pretty sure 24+ months doesn’t fall under the categorisation of “a few”. Iran has been barely touched upon for years, and now the headlines are rolling about how horrible they are now there is a war to justify.
It has been touched upon for years, then fell off the news wagon because of other events.
The attacks are unjustified, but this narrative of “the media had no problem with Iran” when again, in the past years, executions and state violence carried out by Iran have been reported, is false.
I didn’t say no problem, I said tolerable. You really need to read the dictionary and understand words. You cannot just interpret things how you feel, rather than what the words mean.
Did you not see how quick policy and media narratives switch. Recently they tried to rehabilitate the Syrian leader, who’s group was allied to American enemies, and all of a sudden, he wasn’t that bad, let’s drop sanctions.
You have to realise that, what is good and bad, and what the media tells you is good and bad are two different things. You have to critically challenge the narratives you’re fed.
Mate, I don’t rely on mainstream media to tell me what to think about Iran. I have in-laws there. My partner regularly talks to them.
Iran was always shite and during the protests, the media said as much. When they executed protestors, It got reported upon. There was never a time in which Iran was like anywhere close tolerable. Did UK media not pounce on the Shahed drones to Russia? Come on, mate.
Israel attacks Iran. Iran which was tolerable to media a few months ago is now the root of all evil.
Talk of manufacturing consent in an unprovoked attack on another country. The scrambling to justify these attacks on Iran is real interesting.
See you tomorrow and the next day for an Iran did this bad thing story. Keep drip feeding that narrative.
This is textbook manufacturing consent. Maybe these people could benefit from a little history on how these people got into power, and what helps keep them in power. Big surprise, the same people that loves to bring up how terrible they are as they attack them.
When was Iran tolerable? They’re still as much of a fucked up theocracy with a terrible record on human rights as they’ve been since the revolution.
I recall seeing a lot of posts on here praising the leadership whenever they said anything negative about Trump
But that’s about the only stuff positive about Iran I’ve seen on here.
I said tolerable to the media. Been barely discussed in UK media until Israel attacked them, now they’re scrambling to justify it based on how bad Iran is…
I’m not in the UK, but I recall Iran being in the media a lot in China and the US. Back when Trump assassinated one of their generals during his first term, the recurring abductions and rapes of women and young girls by the morality police that sparked nationwide protests, the arms they are providing for Russia in their invasion of Ukraine, and now Israel’s unprovoked attack on Iranian infrastructure and citizens.
What do you expect iran to do want the whole west is imposing severe sanctions harming regular citizens. Iran as no choice but to work with russia. Iran could have been an neutral country if americans, israelis and britosh didn’t support the shah coup
I expect them to stop harming their own civilians, too.
We don’t need to cheer on an oppressive, totalitarian regime just because they’re at odds with another oppressive, totalitarian regime.
I am cheering iran right to self defence not the regime harming their own civilians.
Do you condemn israel starting the war and killing civilians ?
Yes I condemn Israel, this isn’t an either/or type of situation. Both countries are shitty.
We saw how western and Israel intervention always has devastating effect to the population of those countries. The only rational way to think about this is Iran has to defend itself against foreign power known for indiscriminate destructions . Once once it is repealed . The Iranian population can fight against the regime
Basically nothing for 2 years (the protests ended), and the first term for Trump ended in 2021, so 4 years ago. The only thing I have seen is about arms sales, occasionally and it doesn’t express any opinion other than an Iran drone was used.
In the last few days since the attack, it’s quite a lot about nuclear weapons that may be 2 months, 2 years or a 20 years away, and now about journalists. Basically, the strategy has changed to bumping them up the enemies list to justify the attacks.
We don’t see much about the Syrian leader, as he’s not much of a terrorist now he’s working with the West.
It’s interesting how media can pivot their narratives about who the heroes and villains are at any time, and it’s always in line with government foreign policy.
Welp, you convinced me, I now support killing as many Iranians, men women and children, as it takes to save Iranians from the yoke of the Islamic Republic. /s
Waging war on Iran will not improve the situation of any Iranian, even the worst off. Do not use the name of the people who will be slaughtered by the millions for your warmongering propaganda.
Not sure how you got any of that from what I was saying. Feel free to take your black and white worldview somewhere else.
Oh, I just assumed that your parroting of the mainstream media justifications of this war of aggression to be an assent of this war. Sorry, my bad.
Sadly, Iran has not been “tolerable to the media” in recent times.
(Example: a few months ago, their courts were discussing whether to sentence a rapper named Tataloo to death for “corruption on earth” - singing about the wrong things.)
Since they are now in war, media freedom in Iran is probably under the table.
In the UK they were not a problem. Not even discussed until Israel attacked and now they’re scrambling to paint them as the biggest evil to retroactively justify the attacks.
Media freedom is rubbish in Iran. They’re not good guys. However, media is silent on the number of journalists Israel has killed recently, and no, they’re not allowed in Gaza, so the threat of death and lack of freedom seems to apply to the aggressors also.
In reality, they should be clearly communicating this is 2 bad guys fighting this out. It’s obvious who the aggressor is who kicked off another front though.
In what parallel reality do you live in ? It has been classified as one of the worse country for press freedom since years by RSF, they shutdown internet when things get out of hand and banned a lot of social medias.
If you read your sources, you’ll realise Palestine is the worst. “Palestine has become the world’s most dangerous state for journalists, as almost 200 reporters were killed in Gaza by the Israeli army over the first 18 months of war, at least 42 of whom were likely killed due to their work. In the West Bank, where journalists were already the victims of abuses by both the Palestinian Authority and the Israeli occupying forces, Israeli pressure has intensified since 7 October 2023, with an increase in arrests of reporters and obstructions to their work.”
2 bad guys are fighting it out here. One was an aggressor who started this conflict…
Clearly, and i never said the opposite.
Why are people upvoting you when you’re wrong?
I don’t want to be mean but did you live under a rock in 2022-2023?
I said a few months ago. I’m pretty sure 24+ months doesn’t fall under the categorisation of “a few”. Iran has been barely touched upon for years, and now the headlines are rolling about how horrible they are now there is a war to justify.
It has been touched upon for years, then fell off the news wagon because of other events.
The attacks are unjustified, but this narrative of “the media had no problem with Iran” when again, in the past years, executions and state violence carried out by Iran have been reported, is false.
I didn’t say no problem, I said tolerable. You really need to read the dictionary and understand words. You cannot just interpret things how you feel, rather than what the words mean.
Did you not see how quick policy and media narratives switch. Recently they tried to rehabilitate the Syrian leader, who’s group was allied to American enemies, and all of a sudden, he wasn’t that bad, let’s drop sanctions.
You have to realise that, what is good and bad, and what the media tells you is good and bad are two different things. You have to critically challenge the narratives you’re fed.
Mate, I don’t rely on mainstream media to tell me what to think about Iran. I have in-laws there. My partner regularly talks to them.
Iran was always shite and during the protests, the media said as much. When they executed protestors, It got reported upon. There was never a time in which Iran was like anywhere close tolerable. Did UK media not pounce on the Shahed drones to Russia? Come on, mate.
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