• answersplease77@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    Good writeup man, but it’s still subjective because you may have proved what he showed, but not really what he stood for and believed inside. He lied about talking to god to comit horrible crimes then took his own life when felt surrounded. Every action there really concludes that he really believed that there is no god aka an atheist. Btw similarly I can prove to you that David Miscavige really believes in that Scientology spaceship coming at the end of times. I can quote him and show that all ot David Miscavige 100% belives in the narrative of scientoligy, while both of us we know this criminal scum indocrinated his followers with evil ideas for his benefit and that he actually inside does not belive in that scientology stuff… but thatwill remain subjective still. That’s why I know and think Hitler was an Atheist. it doesnt mean atheism is bad or that we should demonize atheists.

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      but it’s still subjective because you may have proved what he showed, but not really what he stood for and believed inside

      A thing no one can do.

      He lied about talking to god

      Opinion with no base. One could say >subjective

      Every action there really concludes that he really believed that there is no god aka an atheist

      Thats both, opinion with no base and bullshit. Christians (or believers of any religion) do and have done horrible things. Being a christian / theist does not stop you from being a bad person. You want to tell me that Hitler was no true scotsman?

      Btw similarly I can prove to you that David Miscavige really believes in that Scientology spaceship coming at the end of times. I can quote him and show that all ot David Miscavige 100% belives in the narrative of scientoligy

      And thats all you can do, because you, just like me, can not tell what people think or believe.

      while both of us we know (…) that he actually inside does not belive in that scientology stuff

      I don’t. And I think it’s arrogant to pretend to know what someone believes when he states other.

      this criminal scum indocrinated his followers with evil ideas for his benefit

      Not a thing a believer couldn’t do. Actually a thing believers quite often do.

      but thatwill remain subjective still

      Agree.

      That’s why I know and think Hitler was an Atheist

      You don’t know, you just think. And for what we have left on the table to examine, you’re wrong.

      it doesnt mean atheism is bad or that we should demonize atheists

      Yet, believers commonly use the lie of “Hitler beeing atheist” as an example for atheists beeing bad people.

      In conclusion, once again, a pretty wordy “no true scotsman”