Reminder that Hitler lost the election. The liberals endorsed a conservative candidate in the name of unity, who won, and proceeded to staff the government with Nazis and made Hitler chancellor, in the name of unity.
The left, cursed with Casandra Syndrome, campaigned on “A vote for Hindenburg is a vote for Hitler is a vote for war.”
Socialism is the only way to stop liberalism from proceeding to fascism. If the liberals had supported the socialists instead of demanding the socialists vote for them while they create the conditions for fascism to grow, and then hand power to the fascists, we could have strangled it in its crib.
It was as true in the 1920s and 30s as it is today. Hell we even saw the dems choose to fund ICE year after year, after they built the first set of cages, and right now, today, are choosing not to block its massive expansion.
And you have any faith at all that those same people have any interest in stopping fascism?
If the liberals had supported the socialists instead of demanding the socialists vote for them
Yes, if only the liberals, who make up a plurality of this country, had chosen to support the socialists, who make up single-digit percentages of this country, they would’ve won the election in a landslide and everything would be fine right now.
instead of demanding the socialists vote for them while they create the conditions for fascism to grow, and then hand power to the fascists, we could have strangled it in its crib.
As we all know, socialism has never allowed fascism to take root. So glad that problems have easy ideological solutions.
But of course, what am I saying? You’re a holodomor and Uyghur genocide denier. You love fascism, as long as it has the right color of paint.
Lmao the worldists just spent years defending the genocide. There are still people saying Iran deserved to get bombed. Admin said Biden just had to send those bomb to defend America against big bad Iran.
Yes, if only the liberals, who make up a plurality of this country
Not even close to correct. Who are the most popular politicians in this country? Every poll I’ve seen in the past 10 years has AOC and Bernie at the top, and the only politician who can even compete with their approval ratings is Mamdani.
Liberals make up a plurality of the news media and the wealthy Democratic donors. They aren’t plurality of the people. A recent poll has 62% of self identified Democrats saying they want new Democratic leadership, and only 24% saying they like the leadership they have. People are fed up, and they are not looking for more “centrist” Democrats.
Liberals make up a plurality of the news media and the wealthy Democratic donors. They aren’t plurality of the people. A recent poll has 62% of self identified Democrats saying they want new Democratic leadership, and only 24% saying they like the leadership they have. People are fed up, and they are not looking for more “centrist” Democrats.
Polling using the word “liberal” is pretty pointless. Leftists and centrists have completely different opposing definitions of what it means, and most Americans don’t have a clue.
Polling on specific issues or particular politicians is the only way to get an accurate picture, and Americans, especially Democrats, are far more left than they self identity.
Polling using the word “liberal” is pretty pointless. Leftists and centrists have completely different opposing definitions of what it means, and most Americans don’t have a clue.
That would seem much more to point towards polling using the word ‘liberal’ being more useful than trying to apply leftist definitions, since most Americans don’t have a clue about the distinction.
Polling on specific issues or particular politicians is the only way to get an accurate picture, and Americans, especially Democrats, are far more left than they self identity.
Funny that polling on specific issues and particular politicians rarely if ever translates into actual voting patterns, even in ballot initiatives. Almost like “Do you like GOOD THING?” gets positive responses until someone points out, rightly or wrongly, that there are other effects, like universal healthcare requiring minor tax rises.
Likewise, having a positive view of a politician is not the same as voting for them, or Bernie wouldn’t have lost two fucking primaries due to the more left-leaning of the two parties rejecting him by double-digit percentages in favor of neoliberal ghouls.
“THE COUNTRY IS SECRETLY LEFT-WING” is just as blinkered and fucking idiotic as “THE SILENT MAJORITY IS WITH US” from the GOP.
That would seem much more to point towards polling using the word ‘liberal’ being more useful than trying to apply leftist definitions
Who’s trying to apply leftist definitions? There is nothing in any definition of “liberal” that aligns it with leftism. It gets misused constantly in multiple ways, not to mention being confused with neoliberalism.
Funny that polling on specific issues and particular politicians rarely if ever translates into actual voting patterns
Tell that to Andrew Cuomo, or Joe Crowley.
even in ballot initiatives
Not true. Republicans (and some Democrats) are working hard at removing ballot initiatives because they work so well for the left.
Bernie wouldn’t have lost two fucking primaries due to the more left-leaning of the two parties rejecting him by double-digit percentages
Why would you assume Bernie being left is why he lost? Clinton had way more large money donations than Bernie, and she had corporate media in her pocket. Bernie wasn’t even making a serious run until he started doing far better than he thought he would. Half way through he completely reorganized his campaign to be a real candidate instead of an issue candidate. The fact that he was able to make that a race against someone with Hillary’s name recognition and the party blessing shows just how powerful left messaging can be.
The issue against Biden wasn’t that left politics was unpopular, it was that left politics was perceived to be unpopular. The number one issue for Democratic voters in 2020 was beating Trump. Voters thought a centrist candidate had a better chance, even though Bernie and Biden pulled almost identically against Trump. The media kept pounding on the electability argument against Bernie, and it stuck. Polling on the candidates showed voters preferred Bernie’s policies, but they didn’t know if he could win.
lmao I am in China right now, I was in Urumqi earlier. There’s no travel restrictions, literally anyone can go there.
problems have easy ideological solutions
Correct, because ideology guides actions. Decisions informed by liberalism tend to heighten the contradictions of capitalism; the working class get weaker, the bourgeois get more powerful, and the petite bourgeoisie get one, then the other, making them easily controlled by anyone who offers them a scapegoat that doesn’t question the system that privileged them.
Reminder that Hitler lost the election. The liberals endorsed a conservative candidate in the name of unity, who won, and proceeded to staff the government with Nazis and made Hitler chancellor, in the name of unity.
The left, cursed with Casandra Syndrome, campaigned on “A vote for Hindenburg is a vote for Hitler is a vote for war.”
Because there is nothing new under the sun, you even had the liberals who announced their endorsement of Hindenburg immediately start attacking the left for not supporting their best shot at defeating Hitler..
In the end, many of them did end up supporting Hindenburg. But liberals will always see the left as a greater threat than fascists.
Fascinating that “I wish we had elected the Nazis sooner” is tankie orthodoxy.
Genocide voter cope
Socialism is the only way to stop liberalism from proceeding to fascism. If the liberals had supported the socialists instead of demanding the socialists vote for them while they create the conditions for fascism to grow, and then hand power to the fascists, we could have strangled it in its crib.
It was as true in the 1920s and 30s as it is today. Hell we even saw the dems choose to fund ICE year after year, after they built the first set of cages, and right now, today, are choosing not to block its massive expansion.
And you have any faith at all that those same people have any interest in stopping fascism?
Yes, if only the liberals, who make up a plurality of this country, had chosen to support the socialists, who make up single-digit percentages of this country, they would’ve won the election in a landslide and everything would be fine right now.
As we all know, socialism has never allowed fascism to take root. So glad that problems have easy ideological solutions.
But of course, what am I saying? You’re a holodomor and Uyghur genocide denier. You love fascism, as long as it has the right color of paint.
Lmao the worldists just spent years defending the genocide. There are still people saying Iran deserved to get bombed. Admin said Biden just had to send those bomb to defend America against big bad Iran.
Hello pot this is kettle
Not even close to correct. Who are the most popular politicians in this country? Every poll I’ve seen in the past 10 years has AOC and Bernie at the top, and the only politician who can even compete with their approval ratings is Mamdani.
Liberals make up a plurality of the news media and the wealthy Democratic donors. They aren’t plurality of the people. A recent poll has 62% of self identified Democrats saying they want new Democratic leadership, and only 24% saying they like the leadership they have. People are fed up, and they are not looking for more “centrist” Democrats.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/656636/democrats-favor-party-moderation-past.aspx
Polling using the word “liberal” is pretty pointless. Leftists and centrists have completely different opposing definitions of what it means, and most Americans don’t have a clue.
Polling on specific issues or particular politicians is the only way to get an accurate picture, and Americans, especially Democrats, are far more left than they self identity.
That would seem much more to point towards polling using the word ‘liberal’ being more useful than trying to apply leftist definitions, since most Americans don’t have a clue about the distinction.
Funny that polling on specific issues and particular politicians rarely if ever translates into actual voting patterns, even in ballot initiatives. Almost like “Do you like GOOD THING?” gets positive responses until someone points out, rightly or wrongly, that there are other effects, like universal healthcare requiring minor tax rises.
Likewise, having a positive view of a politician is not the same as voting for them, or Bernie wouldn’t have lost two fucking primaries due to the more left-leaning of the two parties rejecting him by double-digit percentages in favor of neoliberal ghouls.
“THE COUNTRY IS SECRETLY LEFT-WING” is just as blinkered and fucking idiotic as “THE SILENT MAJORITY IS WITH US” from the GOP.
Who’s trying to apply leftist definitions? There is nothing in any definition of “liberal” that aligns it with leftism. It gets misused constantly in multiple ways, not to mention being confused with neoliberalism.
Tell that to Andrew Cuomo, or Joe Crowley.
Not true. Republicans (and some Democrats) are working hard at removing ballot initiatives because they work so well for the left.
Why would you assume Bernie being left is why he lost? Clinton had way more large money donations than Bernie, and she had corporate media in her pocket. Bernie wasn’t even making a serious run until he started doing far better than he thought he would. Half way through he completely reorganized his campaign to be a real candidate instead of an issue candidate. The fact that he was able to make that a race against someone with Hillary’s name recognition and the party blessing shows just how powerful left messaging can be.
The issue against Biden wasn’t that left politics was unpopular, it was that left politics was perceived to be unpopular. The number one issue for Democratic voters in 2020 was beating Trump. Voters thought a centrist candidate had a better chance, even though Bernie and Biden pulled almost identically against Trump. The media kept pounding on the electability argument against Bernie, and it stuck. Polling on the candidates showed voters preferred Bernie’s policies, but they didn’t know if he could win.
Oh, fuck you, that’s not at all what I said.
You are literally doing nazi propaganda right now.
lmao I am in China right now, I was in Urumqi earlier. There’s no travel restrictions, literally anyone can go there.
Correct, because ideology guides actions. Decisions informed by liberalism tend to heighten the contradictions of capitalism; the working class get weaker, the bourgeois get more powerful, and the petite bourgeoisie get one, then the other, making them easily controlled by anyone who offers them a scapegoat that doesn’t question the system that privileged them.