If its true their support has waned then the people in power are the exact people who deserve to be. You want to vote for dems because they wear blue not because you give a shit about principles.
Your problems not with me then. What principles do you stand for? Is it, “do what ever it takes to win” or “reason and compromise can be used to benefit all people”? Ideas that win are ideas that deserve to win. While this might not always be true its a principle you can stand by.
Let me try one more time, if we still arent there I dont know.
Yes, the DNC can exclude trans people from the party platform. Does it change the fact that democrat voting people overwhelmingly support trans people? Does it actually convince moderates they want a long term stake in the party?
No, probably not on both accounts. What it does do is maybe win an election here or there.
So what will happen, when the same moderates say, “time to toss trans people under the bus”? Does the base move or do these moderates get tossed?
Wouldn’t it be better to stand on your principles. Principles that say all people deserve a better life and the trans community deserve to be treated with dignity and respect.
My gripe is, before this whole argument even matters the DNC needs a coherent, functional, media strategy and that does not just materialize out of no where. Start there, before lopping off your arms in attempt to be as intellectually bankrupt as the RNC.
Look bud, I think everyone deserves to live a fulfilling life with all their needs met. I however am just one person and most of the people I interact with on a day to day basis seem to be fully on the “empathy is bad” train. I don’t know how to fix anything and frankly I’m too tired to care at this point.
Well. I dont think empathy is bad. Its not a principle I can abandon. I dont get to shape the world the way I want it, either. Most of us really only get small chances to tip the scales. I dont think any presidential votes I cast in the last 8 years mattered. I dont think there is a world where they could matter. Ill keep voting though, and try to tip the scale.
The world I want, the empathic world I imagine, is not a world I will most likely get to live in. So, if its a good idea and I dont give up on it, surely it can only win because its good. Whether or not I get to see it is beyond my control.
This is all lost in the weeds, though. Youre in the right place because youre thinking of ways to stop trump. That’s notable. You’re also considering things we can do in the immediate future. All good too. So which path actually happens or whatever, just remember, you’ll course correct that one too.
If its true their support has waned then the people in power are the exact people who deserve to be. You want to vote for dems because they wear blue not because you give a shit about principles.
I’m so glad your privy to my private thoughts. People like you are why everyone thinks progressives are fucking nutters.
What’s private? Did you not suggest the DNC abandon its trans platform?
I’m talking about your statement where you randomly decided I’m basically blue maga.
Your problems not with me then. What principles do you stand for? Is it, “do what ever it takes to win” or “reason and compromise can be used to benefit all people”? Ideas that win are ideas that deserve to win. While this might not always be true its a principle you can stand by.
What the fuck are you talking about? It’s 8:30 in the morning here. I haven’t had enough coffee to even keep up with your golden retriever energy.
Let me try one more time, if we still arent there I dont know.
Yes, the DNC can exclude trans people from the party platform. Does it change the fact that democrat voting people overwhelmingly support trans people? Does it actually convince moderates they want a long term stake in the party?
No, probably not on both accounts. What it does do is maybe win an election here or there.
So what will happen, when the same moderates say, “time to toss trans people under the bus”? Does the base move or do these moderates get tossed?
Wouldn’t it be better to stand on your principles. Principles that say all people deserve a better life and the trans community deserve to be treated with dignity and respect.
My gripe is, before this whole argument even matters the DNC needs a coherent, functional, media strategy and that does not just materialize out of no where. Start there, before lopping off your arms in attempt to be as intellectually bankrupt as the RNC.
Look bud, I think everyone deserves to live a fulfilling life with all their needs met. I however am just one person and most of the people I interact with on a day to day basis seem to be fully on the “empathy is bad” train. I don’t know how to fix anything and frankly I’m too tired to care at this point.
Well. I dont think empathy is bad. Its not a principle I can abandon. I dont get to shape the world the way I want it, either. Most of us really only get small chances to tip the scales. I dont think any presidential votes I cast in the last 8 years mattered. I dont think there is a world where they could matter. Ill keep voting though, and try to tip the scale.
The world I want, the empathic world I imagine, is not a world I will most likely get to live in. So, if its a good idea and I dont give up on it, surely it can only win because its good. Whether or not I get to see it is beyond my control.
This is all lost in the weeds, though. Youre in the right place because youre thinking of ways to stop trump. That’s notable. You’re also considering things we can do in the immediate future. All good too. So which path actually happens or whatever, just remember, you’ll course correct that one too.