And from the glowing reviews it’s clear that

  1. W11 doesn’t actually need a new PC to run and the limitations are completely artificial

  2. For many people, a ten years old PC is fast enough (or even faster than a brand new Intel N100 PC that is officially W11 compatible). They won’t even notice that’s something from 2015, as long it has a shiny new case, enough RAM and SSD

  3. Amazon doesn’t care that the PC comes with pirated software, or that someone is scamming their customers, as long they get their 15% cut from marketplace sales (the cost of a genuine license of W11 pro and office exceeds the price of those ewaste specials)

  • Firipu@lemmy.worldEnglish
    31·
    2 days ago

    I still doubt it would be a pleasant experience. I only do office type work on the n150 device. It’s still laggy AF compared to any modern mid-range cpu. (eg my i5 (?) 8600 at home, which is also already of respectable age, is a lot smoother for non-gaming use.)

    But I guess your point (partially) stands, Johnny granddad won’t notice when he checks the news and weather in the morning.

    • Yerbouti@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      1·
      2 days ago

      I suspect it’s all the OS bullshit that makes you experience laggy. Obviously having an SSD and 8gb ram is essential. I made a super light install of Win 10 on my i5 750, years ago, and any office works is still 100% smooth on it. Even editing and mixing audio is not much different than on my M1 Max, I still open some old projects from time to time. I teach computer science in an audio engineering program, and I’m convinced that in the field of audio, we won the battle of computing power a very long time ago. On the other hand, for video processing, game engines, etc. it’s another story. But in the field of sound, power gains are marginal these days.

      • Firipu@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        10 hours ago

        I ran Ubuntu and arch on it. The lag is noticeable even in Firefox with just 5-6 tabs open. 8GB ram and an ssd. Open multiple apps and it becomes very very noticeable.

        Audio, sure, I have no experience with that, no argument from me there.

        But you claimed your vintage cpu is enough for most people. Most people ain’t audio engineers. Most people would immediately notice a smoothness difference between an m1 max and your vintage cpu. There is no way you don’t notice a difference in (non audio maybe) regular browsing (not just one tab, but many) and multitasking, stop lying to win a useless internet argument.

        • Yerbouti@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          7 hours ago

          Dude, you’re the one who wants to win an argument here. I use both computer daily. I also have an Amd 5950x, an i7 6700, a 2012 MB pro at my studio that I use a couple of times week. I’m not exactly a computer illeterate, it’s part of my job to work on different systems I don’t do a ton of multitasking on the i5, no need for 42 tabs open on a media and gaming system lol, but I can assure you if there’s any lag on firefox with a few tabs open and an office suite running, it’s not enough to bother the vast majority of people. Seriously I cant count the number of times I’ve add this discussions with “gamers” that believe they know everything about computers because they play AAA and upgrade their gpus every 2 years. I’m should really do a freaking video of my i5 doing the normal stuff people do and playing a few games, just so I can stop having this discussion lol. In the end, I dont care if you dont believe me, but you really should work on optimizing your system if you can’t do normal stuff on it. Btw, if a computer is good enough for pro audio, it’s good enough for browsing and office work lol.