• PolydoreSmith@lemmy.world
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    Jews, Muslims, and Christians lived in that area together for hundreds of years. This is a political conflict. The fucking Israeli settlers are psychopaths who roll into towns and start setting things on fire. It’s about territory, like all colonialist aggression.

    Just gonna leave this here…

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      15 hours ago

      Religion does have a nonzero influence, but you’re correct in that this is primarily a political conflict. Zionists murder Muslim and Christian Palestinians alike, and Fatah, a secular resistance movement, was the leading org of the Palestinian side for the longest time.

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        Okay, so by “Zionists” are you referring exclusively to members of the Israeli government or might there perhaps be a broader ideology at play here? The meme reeks of a Bernie Sanders-esqe “Netanyahu is the problem” kind of narrative.

        I don’t care where they go, just leave the fucking indigenous people alone.

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          Okay, so by “Zionists” are you referring exclusively to members of the Israeli government or might there perhaps be a broader ideology at play here?

          There’s a broader ideology at play here that is very deeply engrained in Israeli society.

          The meme reeks of a Bernie Sanders-esqe “Netanyahu is the problem” kind of narrative.

          Sanders is a politician, not a polisci professor. Politicians say what they think will get them closer to the solutions they think they can achieve, not necessarily what is objectively correct. “We need to get rid of the worst of the genociders who has sparked the current wave of genocide, and condemning 70% of Israeli society, however correctly, will not give us the allies we need to reduce the current stage of the genocide and move to the next step of a just and lasting peace” kind of thinking - Sanders has long been a radical, by US standards, voice in support of the Palestinian cause. Thinking that him focusing on the most immediate enemy is condemnation worthy is blinkered at best.

          I don’t care where they go, just leave the fucking indigenous people alone.

          … do you care if Israelis in Israeli-majority areas recognized by international law as part of the state of Israel remain in Israel, where many of them were born and raised?