We all see and hear what goes on over there. Kim will execute kids if they don’t cheer hard enough at his birthday party or something? He’s always threatening to nuke countries and is probably has the highest domestic kill count out of any world leader today.

So I ask? Why don’t any other countries step in to help those people. I saw a survey asking Americans and Escaped North Koreans would they migrate to North Korea and to the US if given the chance (hypothetical for the refugees). And it was like <0.1% to 95%. Obviously those people live in terror.

Why do we just allow this to happen in modern civilization? Nukes on South Korea? Is just not lucrative to step in? SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME PLEASE!?

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    You said that the Koreans “benefitted” from UN involvement, now you’re saying you don’t support UN involvement? Would you deprive Koreans of the benefit of being infected with smallpox?

    Or is this another one of your word games, where I correctly understood your position, but because you didn’t technically explicitly say it it doesn’t count? The classic “motte and bailey” tactic?

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      You asked who benefited and I answered that. It’s not an endorsement lol. North Korea benefited from China entering the war. Do I now support Chinese involvement?

      Like said, you’re getting too emotional to actually consider what is being said…

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        Can I just get a straight answer? Do you or do you not support UN intervention in the Korean War? Yes or no, no more evasion, no more word games.

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          Ask direct questions, receive direct answers. No I don’t support it. I think none of the war should’ve happened.

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            In that case I return to my original statement. “Damn, maybe we should stop doing them then.” I don’t have any control over what North Korea does or did, but I do, at least theoretically, have influence as a voter and a citizen over what the US does, so I’m going to focus on the things within my ability to influence. And your response that “North Korea started the war” seems largely irrelevant.

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              I don’t have any control over either action so I’m just sad that North Korea started the whole thing, especially in hindsight when we know it achieved nothing but caused so much bad.

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                Well, your country is part of the UN and as you’ve emphasized it was a UN intervention so I’d say it’s pretty clear which side of the war you have a greater ability to influence and therefore a greater responsibility to critique.

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                  Not members of the Securit Council though who made the decision or the United Nations Command. So not any more say over the matter than any other country that was part of the UN (which at the time and still is pretty much every country, but not all).

                  But it also happened before I was born, so my possibilities on affecting the outcome are pretty limited.

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                    Not members of the Securit Council though who made the decision or the United Nations Command

                    Which returns to my previous point that “the UN” at the time was essentially just the US, the UK (whose support was bought with the coup in Iran), and France (who got US support in Vietnam in exchange).

                    But it also happened before I was born, so my possibilities on affecting the outcome are pretty limited.

                    Then why are we even talking about it? Because it provides an opportunity to learn from mistakes and avoid repeating them.