Online work is (as the gruesome and unfortunate events of 2015/2016 have shown) surprisingly effective at generating enthusiasm, but actual organizing is still most effective on the ground. I mention this seemingly unrelated point because an overinflated sense of how ‘real’ an online community is can lead to some very ugly circlejerks and denial of reality. And also, the Fediverse is still fucking tiny, lol.
That being said, I’d love to join a comm like that. I couldn’t moderate it though - I’m far too volatile a personality for coalition-building. Also I moderate too many comms as it is, lmao.
If one hypothetically were to create such a comm (with the express intent of relinquishing moderation to a more suitable party as soon as possible), which instance do you think is best suited? I’ve seen your takes, I know you’re active, I respect your opinion.
I’ve been intending to leave Lemmy for Piefed, but I’m not overly familiar with Piefed instances yet.
.world is the boring answer. For all the flak it gets, most of its trouble is that admins don’t generally interfere with comm moderation, and thus a significant amount of .world comms have… questionable moderation. In this case, though, that’s an advantage. But it’s an institutionally robust instance, the largest, permissive for our purposes, and the admins are at least willing to walk back dumbass decisions if there’s public outcry.
sh.itjust.works would be the other major option.
dbzer0 is a good instance for most things, but the aggressively anti-electoralist stance of the admins makes it an uncomfortable fit for “Let’s make a new coalition in the current political environment.”
Most other servers are either small, or have a regional/topical bend to them which may not be desirable.
I’ve been intending to leave Lemmy for Piefed, but I’m not overly familiar with Piefed instances yet.
I get that. I feel like the least tech-capable person on Lemmy, so I don’t really get into the fediverse meta. In any case, doesn’t hurt to have a wide presence.
.world is the boring answer.
Yeah.
sh.itjust.works would be the other major option.
I’ll admit I’m not really savvy to the intricacies of Lemmy politics, but my username betrays a mild bias. I do enjoy the ethos it implicitly suggests by its name.
dbzer0 is a good instance for most things, but the aggressively anti-electoralist stance of the admins makes it an uncomfortable fit for “Let’s make a new coalition in the current political environment.”
Tell me about it. Them or slrpnk was my first instinct, and as much as I agree with them on a lot of things, they seem to have been infected with the ideology-uber-alles bug.
Yeah I definitely don’t have time to moderate myself either. I made one niche comm and immediately realized I couldn’t commit to moderation so did absolutely nothing to promote it.
Still, seems like a productive conversation to be had. I’m sure someone had the inclination and the time.
Online work is (as the gruesome and unfortunate events of 2015/2016 have shown) surprisingly effective at generating enthusiasm, but actual organizing is still most effective on the ground.
Heard that. Still, online work could be a great way to kickstart the groundwork.
Online work is (as the gruesome and unfortunate events of 2015/2016 have shown) surprisingly effective at generating enthusiasm, but actual organizing is still most effective on the ground. I mention this seemingly unrelated point because an overinflated sense of how ‘real’ an online community is can lead to some very ugly circlejerks and denial of reality. And also, the Fediverse is still fucking tiny, lol.
That being said, I’d love to join a comm like that. I couldn’t moderate it though - I’m far too volatile a personality for coalition-building. Also I moderate too many comms as it is, lmao.
If one hypothetically were to create such a comm (with the express intent of relinquishing moderation to a more suitable party as soon as possible), which instance do you think is best suited? I’ve seen your takes, I know you’re active, I respect your opinion.
I’ve been intending to leave Lemmy for Piefed, but I’m not overly familiar with Piefed instances yet.
.world is the boring answer. For all the flak it gets, most of its trouble is that admins don’t generally interfere with comm moderation, and thus a significant amount of .world comms have… questionable moderation. In this case, though, that’s an advantage. But it’s an institutionally robust instance, the largest, permissive for our purposes, and the admins are at least willing to walk back dumbass decisions if there’s public outcry.
sh.itjust.works would be the other major option.
dbzer0 is a good instance for most things, but the aggressively anti-electoralist stance of the admins makes it an uncomfortable fit for “Let’s make a new coalition in the current political environment.”
Most other servers are either small, or have a regional/topical bend to them which may not be desirable.
I get that. I feel like the least tech-capable person on Lemmy, so I don’t really get into the fediverse meta. In any case, doesn’t hurt to have a wide presence.
Yeah.
I’ll admit I’m not really savvy to the intricacies of Lemmy politics, but my username betrays a mild bias. I do enjoy the ethos it implicitly suggests by its name.
Tell me about it. Them or slrpnk was my first instinct, and as much as I agree with them on a lot of things, they seem to have been infected with the ideology-uber-alles bug.
Yeah I definitely don’t have time to moderate myself either. I made one niche comm and immediately realized I couldn’t commit to moderation so did absolutely nothing to promote it.
Still, seems like a productive conversation to be had. I’m sure someone had the inclination and the time.
Heard that. Still, online work could be a great way to kickstart the groundwork.