Becuase it brings hard numbers about what the big tent could have done to win some seats. Libertarians have had good success in showing that if their 1% had been listened to the Rs could have picked up more seats. And the Rs have listened. They have shifted policy closer to what they want to see way more than we have to what we need.
Great then we are in agreement in this case. If people want to vote for third parties fine if people want to vote for the Democrats fine I don’t have a problem with that. My only issue is spending a lot of time harping on electoralism as the force that will save the United States. You’re right I would much rather people vote third party because it does do exactly what you want and shows the Democrats the type of policies we want but I’m pretty sure they’re already aware of the type of policies we want they just don’t want to give them to us judging by their reaction in New York.
I’m pretty sure they’re already aware of the type of policies we want they just don’t want to give them to us judging by their reaction in New York.
Which is why we need them to show up so that they are active and proven audience to cater to. As for your second part that is why protesting is still important. Again, I never said we shouldn’t do that, but if you don’t convert your protest into policy it was just a hangout. Presumably the anti israel protest do want the genocide to end right? Well if the protest does not focus on a policy that leads to something [even a cease fire so that Palestine can live to fight another day] then it really didn’t do anything. Protests are important to have your voice heard outside of election periods, but no showing on elections also means you can be ignored as the worst you will do is make noise.
I’ll bite. Why is voting third party not any better than not voting?
Becuase it brings hard numbers about what the big tent could have done to win some seats. Libertarians have had good success in showing that if their 1% had been listened to the Rs could have picked up more seats. And the Rs have listened. They have shifted policy closer to what they want to see way more than we have to what we need.
We cannot know what that 38% wanted, but we do know more about that 1.1%. All we know is that there is a huge amount of possible allies that we are not getting involved one way or another. https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1grcztm/voter_distribution_in_us_2024_presidential/
Great then we are in agreement in this case. If people want to vote for third parties fine if people want to vote for the Democrats fine I don’t have a problem with that. My only issue is spending a lot of time harping on electoralism as the force that will save the United States. You’re right I would much rather people vote third party because it does do exactly what you want and shows the Democrats the type of policies we want but I’m pretty sure they’re already aware of the type of policies we want they just don’t want to give them to us judging by their reaction in New York.
Which is why we need them to show up so that they are active and proven audience to cater to. As for your second part that is why protesting is still important. Again, I never said we shouldn’t do that, but if you don’t convert your protest into policy it was just a hangout. Presumably the anti israel protest do want the genocide to end right? Well if the protest does not focus on a policy that leads to something [even a cease fire so that Palestine can live to fight another day] then it really didn’t do anything. Protests are important to have your voice heard outside of election periods, but no showing on elections also means you can be ignored as the worst you will do is make noise.