I personally believe there is no way for them to succeed. If they were acting in good faith the actual incease in the number of intelligent people, who would recognize cruelty when they see it, would tear it down. If they acted in bad faith, which they most definitely would, they would fill the world with these idiots.

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    Which eugenicists?

    There a big difference between “kill everyone of a certain race” and “you don’t get to reproduce if you have a horrifying heritable disease”.

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        Eugenics isn’t just done by government. The world has been limiting the reproduction of the disabled through social pressure for ages. Look at the stigma interracial relationships used to have. Examples are everywhere.

        Why does everyone think eugenics only means the way the Nazis did it?

        It’s a broad term people. The government is the most heavy handed way to implement it but social pressure is arguably more effective and harder to end.

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        Well, once involves mass murder and the other doesn’t, so I think the people being impacted by that would see a difference.

        But if your worldview needs overgeneralizations to survive, you do you I guess.

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          Then call it something else, I dont care if you think if it fits the definition, you can modify the term or create a new one. Normalizing eugenics is insanity.

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            Look. If you want to talk about ethnic cleansing, talk about ethnic cleansing. If you want to talk about mass murder, talk about mass murder. But the term “eugenics” covers a lot of possibilities whether you like that or not.

            Sorry.

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        to me they are the same.

        Well, it’s a shame for you that the definitions for words don’t care about your feelings.

        Do any surface level research on eugenics and it’s always first and foremost about things like forced sterilization/select so called “superior” people for breeding and the like. Even when nazi Germany is mentioned the focus is on forced sterilization and support for the families considered “superior” over those that aren’t.

        The ethnic cleansing done in nazi Germany, while used in tandem with eugenics, is its own seperate thing.

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          I think you lost my meaning. It the other poster who wants to claim preventing disease by ending pregnancy early is eugenics.

          Either I didnt say something right or I completely agree with you.