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    2 years ago

    I hate Gen Z

    Dude. I have a group that only talks on Facebook Messenger. It’s 100% Gen X and Millennials. Don’t blame the generation, it just makes you sound like an old man yelling “get off my lawn”.

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      Don’t blame the generation, it just makes you sound like an old man yelling “get off my lawn”.

      I’m assuming that they are also Gen Z, with the whole college roommates thing.

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        millennials were doing that in their 20s though. it was a whole drama with some of my friends when i switched to android back in the day (5-8 years ago, mind). you just want to be a grumpy old.

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          Im a 36 year old millennial and when I was in my 20s no one gave a fuck what you used we were just stoked to have smart phones lol

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          I had a fucking Nokia brick phone in my 20s and nobody gave a shit what kind of phone I had. Maybe your friends were just…shall we say, not of the quality of person I would desire in members of my social circle.

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        Since when? Boomers will click anything you send them, Gen X think they are too clever to be phished on their XP desktop, and Millennials will give you their entire credit history for $50 off a streaming service. The majority of every generation doesn’t give a shit about digital privacy.

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    My hot take is that Gen Z is less tech literate than Millennials and it’s almost entirely due to iOS.

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      Never take tech advice from someone who hasn’t removed the device manufacturers advertisement from their email signature

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      All my friends have android phones and they are tech illiterate. This is common thing in every generation ig. Not a gen z specific thing. I have seen millennial tech nerds and tech illiterates

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        I think it’s less to do with IOS vs Android and more to do with phone vs PC (potentially even ones where you had to use command prompt to do things). File systems, OS corruption, ability to replace parts, etc are not really things a typical phone-only user is going to deal with. There are a lot of primarily phone, tablet, Chromebook users these days and it abstracts away a lot of the lower-level stuff that millennials were forced to deal with to use AOL Instant Messenger to chat.

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          yep, a lot of people at my school have no laptop except the school provided Chromebook, use mostly iPhones, and due to using Chromebooks and iPhones for everything they never actually touch the inner workings of the OS

          People have said that Linux sucks because there are barely any games and game mods for it

          Yeah, go tell that to Steam about the steam deck lol, Stray runs great under proton, you can even get it to kinda-sorta work on low-end hardware

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          Yeah you can say that also i recently fixed a friend’s pc which was not booting to windows, all i had to do was change the boot priority to the one with windows on it.

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      It’s because computers and phones have shifted to be simultaneously more complicated and with more intuitive UI for casual users. 75 years ago most people who owned a car could do a lot of routine maintenance and even some more advanced engine work because the cars were way simpler. Millennials just lucked out that they grew up in a tome when computers were way less complicated and also cheap enough to be consumer goods. It’s not because of any one company, but the natural evolution of the technology.

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        I wouldn’t say it’s lucky, there are tons of jobs that require & presume you to have the most basic knowledge about filesystem or folder hierarchy and the young hires I’ve had in the last few years act like I’m throwing them into an advanced calculus class. Mouths agape and eyebrows scrunched up as I slowly show them where files go, like I’ve invented fire in front of their eyes.

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          This reminded me of Principal Skinner’s “furrowing their brows in a vain attempt to understand the situation”

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      Sounds like bullshit. I’m a millennial and most people I know know shit about computers. Even those who use them every day only know how to do the few things they need to do and that’s it.

      So I don’t think gen Z is any worse in that, most people suck, regardless of generation, with computers and that’s it.

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        More people drive a car than understand how it works. They push the pedal and turn the wheel and get where they want to go. Of course that’s fine most of the time and we can’t all understand everything like a mechanic does. But when it’s something like a car or a computer that you use so, so much in your daily life and you don’t care to have even the most basic understanding of how it works… seems strange to me.

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        Hasn’t helped most of them in western Europe though, in a lot of elementary schools they now teach about basic computer skills like how folders work (and they spend weeks on that).

        It’s never been about a specific company or anything, it’s just that more people are using computers and don’t actually have to learn anything to use them.

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    1. Create an IG account with a burner email and join the chat
    2. Sell all other member’s data to advertisement, scam telephone services, mailing lists, etc… subscribe all of them to newsletters from amazon and pornsites (or just wait for all of that to happen naturally)
    3. Wait for someone to bring this up
    4. “I told you, we should move to Signal”
    5. Bring everyone over
    6. Win
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      „I want people to care more about their privacy so I’m going to give away their data and seriously harming their privacy to tell them that i told them so“ - what kind of mental gymnastics is this?

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        First of all I was joking, as I know that selling your friends’ personal data without thier consent is not only immoral but also ILLEGAL in all free countries. If you, for some reason, need this to be be clarified, I do not endorse giving away other people’s personal data.
        Second: when my father found two boxes of cigarettes in my bedroom when I was 13, he made me smoke all of them in one sitting. I never smoked again.
        Shock therapy works sometimes, so there’s your logic kid.

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          smoked 2 boxes of cigarettes in one sitting

          that seems like an extremely reckless way to scold your child

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      Can you create an account with a burner email? When I tried it about a year ago, plus some legitimate addresses, it never worked or it straight asked for a phone number. I gave them a temp number, received a code, it ‘ran into an unexpected error’.

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    Bad sign for a roommate. I think their intention was " I have something that’s good enough, and I would be inconvenienced to do another thing, therefore I would prefer to use the old platform most of us are already on " but instead he said " signal sucks "

    This person might be painful to live with

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      I mean if you don’t care about privacy at all Signal does kinda suck in comparison to other popular chat apps.

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    this isn’t a “gen Z” problem, this is a “normal people” problem. Most people just want something easy, accessible, and familiar.

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      Such signatures are so annoying. Who in the history ever read this and thought “yeah, you know what I’ll get an iPhone for email”? Stupid preset.

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            …I switched from Android to iPhone when they stopped making physical keyboards, after comparing on-screen keyboards on Android devices to iOS’ keyboard. Android’s on-screen keyboards were horrible at the time.

            I’m sure they’ve improved, but there nothing horrific about iOS’ keyboard—I have always found it to work very well.

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    So you’re mad because people don’t want to download another app and create another account, and generalizing a whole generation because they don’t want to use signal? You’re just bitter.

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    Give zoomers a break. Most people have terminal baby duck syndrome and will sacrifice anything for convenience, regardless of age.

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    Just remember: it’s ok to be the weird guy that doesn’t use instagram and isn’t in the group chat.

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      Yeah, Beeper is what I use because I’m lazy. Having everything in one app so just too convenient.

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        right! and i forgot about beeper!! its perfect as a 1 person solution you can host, right?

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          Yeah, they make their bridges available for self hosting if you want to go that route too! Or you can just use their service if you don’t want to mess with that (aka me lol).

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    Why should everyone use your recommended app tho? Try to look for a compromise. Yes privacy is important, but being that hard on yourself and others will make your life a lot less enjoyable.

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      I’ve grown up enough to understand that, but it still really bothers me how ignorant people are. You could go further: no curiosity, no adventure, no hobbies, and total lack of effort in almost every facet of life.

      People just like to stagnate, and it shows in almost every situation. Not even technology related things, but everything.

      My teenage little brother, as much as I love him, is kind of disappointing. He doesn’t do anything but play Roblox. When he is grounded (often) he elects to take pictures of his feet and say stupid things to his “friends” instead of holding real conversations.

      I’ve never been able to get him interested in anything that requires a modicum of effort, except for modded Minecraft. He likes the machines, and has built cool things, so I know he has the smarts, but he doesn’t have the attention span or the patience to troubleshoot them if they don’t work the first time. He gives up and starts doom scrolling social media. He has expensive shoes, the latest iPhone, and perms his hair. My mother encouraged this vapid pretty boy personality he’s adopted, and I don’t know why, he wasn’t like that when he was younger.

      He tries to make fun of me for having and Android phone and using Linux, and I explain to him that software development is what I do for a living and as a hobby. Look, I never ever ever see an ad, anywhere. He thinks AirPods sound good, and calls all earbuds “AirPods”.

      And he’s not the only one, I’m tutoring a kid around his age for programming and math. This kid will answer “I don’t know” to every single question, and when I check every 5 minutes to make sure he follows, he is obviously preoccupied.

      When I was their age, I hated school just as much as any other kid (and I still think it needs serious reform because it might cause this kind of damage that I’m describing) but I still spent all of my free time either outside trying to make explosives, reading, or programming.

      I do not understand the lazy I see all around me.

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        As someone who did poorly in math and science classes because I spent all my free time reading Stephen King novels, binging horror movies on VHS, playing the original Final Fantasy, and walking around town aimlessly with my friends, I assure you we were there, and I knew people with even less motivation than myself.

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          You are not the same. You read, watch, and play FF to ingest stories. The group of kids I’m talking about just open Roblox and fucking check out.