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    21 hours ago

    What I haven’t seen mentioned yet is that we have a established registration and licensing system to streamline identification, ticketing, and consequences for vehicles, however it’s not used for bicyclists. There are pros and cons and ambiguity to overcome. Is biking considered a privilege like cars? Is it really “pedestrian” with electric bikes now?

    Tickets for bikes isn’t something that can be tacked on to the existing DMV infrastructure easily so of course they have to be processed differently for now.

    Now if bikes/riders were licensed too, that may be easier to ticket just like vehicles, but good luck trying to push that law through.

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      This comment seems to be suggesting that because enforcing traffic laws against people riding bikes is more difficult than it is against people driving cars, people should be punished more harshly when they violate traffic laws on bikes.

      What that argument ignores is the vast difference in risk to others. The car is a couple orders of magnitude more dangerous, which is a major reason the law requires a license and registration to operate one on public roads. The idea of balancing the difficulty of enforcing traffic laws against people on bikes with harsher penalties only makes sense ignoring the difference in danger to others between bikes and cars.

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        20 hours ago

        Their first sentence explains their premise.

        What I haven’t seen mentioned yet is that we have an established registration and licensing system to streamline identification, ticketing, and consequences for vehicles that bicyclists don’t use.

        They’re saying the infrastructure around vehicles has established process which doesn’t exist for cyclists. They’re positing, from my reading, that this is contributing to the disparity in how infractions are handled; that if bicycles had license plates, registration etc. similar to vehicles the current system could be equally applied.

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          In the USA, traffic tickets are usually issued by a police officer stopping the violator and physically handing them a citation. This is the same process for a misdemeanor summons, but the latter requires the person to come to court rather than pay a fine online or by mail, and can involve harsher penalties.

          There’s no difference in that process when there’s a license plate and driver’s license involved; the license plate just makes it easier to track down someone who flees.

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            7 hours ago

            I understand that. You were the one struggling to understand the original commenter and getting hostile because of your misunderstanding.

            I was attempting to clarify for you. Frankly, I don’t care what the situation is since I don’t live there and was informed by someone who does that “laws don’t really apply”.

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              6 hours ago

              getting hostile

              Where was I hostile? I never intended to express hostility to anyone here, just disagreement with NYC traffic enforcement practices.

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        1 day ago

        Wow, swing and a miss, bud. That is so, so not what I said at all.

        In no way did I imply “people should be punished more harshly”. Nor did I address anything about weight.

        Jeez, stop making stuff up.

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          1 day ago

          The comment appears to be a defense or justification of the current practice. Apologies for the confusion if that’s not what you meant.