Im a liberal-left woman who’s college educated (Im trying to become a teacher) whos a dual israeli/US citizen but atm feel alienated from both countries so wondering what in your guys views country would be a general fit for someone like me, maybe theres expats here who can help out

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    How about you repay some of the privilege given to you by both regimes theft of less worthy people’s resources and actually contribue to changing your homes for the better.

    People used to be refugees from persecution, not from responsibility.

    Anyway, you might be welcome in Hungary and probably India. Perth in Australia would work but you’d have to be white-passing to fit in with all the white South African post-apartheid refugees.

    It sounds like you have a teaching degree which is a very country-specific qualification that is almost useless in other countries beyond maybe teaching English to American-occupied countries like Korea and Thailand.

    Do you have any other skills with which to apply from abroad or do you expect to show up to a country and just be handed a visa and job? Which European countries did your grandparents colonise Palestine from? If you can get passports for those, you will at least have a right to be there.

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        Sorry that you’re apparently just now learning that your country’s whites-only immigration policies in living memory made it the most desired destination for the perpetrators of apartheid. Feel free to stop cosplaying a brit and just swear at me like an actual Australian though.

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        Well, that’s a real pity. Can’t see many of those countries welcoming you ‘back’ for some reason.

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            Why not? Because you will face the consequences of genocide and can’t enjoy your life fully? You are still associating yourself with the most brutal disgusting fascist regime on this planet COMMITTING A GENOCIDE AND STARVING PEOPLE AS WE FUCKING SPEAK and see no problem with that?

            As a European, you are NOT welcome here.

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              Dude fuck off. Europe aids and abets Israel, get off your high horse.

              Many Jews, even in Israel, want a stop to the genocide.

              We can argue about a two state solution blah blah blah, but at the end of the day you cannot profile someone based on their nationality alone.

              The same thing happens to Russians. It’s fucking disgusting and you should be ashamed of yourself.

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                Yes, I agree, Europe is complicit (some more, some less) we can cut Ursula’s head.

                https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2024/05/pg_2024.05.30_israeli-views-war_0_01.png

                Some 53 per cent of respondents said they believe Israel should not permit aid to enter Gaza, while only 34 per cent supported allowing lifesaving food, medicines and water to enter the enclave.

                This is a recent data, in January was 72% Source

                I wouldn’t categorise them as “many”. Still the majority of israeli want to keep the blockade (it’s a war crime FYI).

                So yes, I will not trust any self proclaimed israeli anymore and i will profile them, ask them about their opinion on ONE OF THE WOST ONGOING GENOCIDE IN HISTORY, and absolutely judge them on this basis.

                If you talk about 2 state, you are clearly still inside israeli propaganda. This bla bla bla are kids dead while the west decides what to do with them.

                israel does NOT exist, never did. I might be on a high horse but at least I don’t defend genocide enablers like you. We are in this situation EXACTLY AND PRECISELY for people like you and these other ppl here.

                I clean my ass with your opinions of me, your downvotes are medals.

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              Jesus Christ dude… What is your fucking problem.
              You’re talking as if they personally strangled babies, even though you have no idea about their actual views and beliefs

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                Here, does this help understand? This is pure hasbara.

                My problem is the starving kids in Gaza, but it looks like I’m alone here. I’m glad you sleep soundly at night.

                She came here and announced her association with the zionist genocidal regime but I’m the asshole, got it.

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                  People having a different point of view than you do on the best way to solve a complex and decades long conflict? The nerve!

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                    Complex? Alright, you are really testing my patience.

                    She just called people suffering genocide “recalcitrant”, people who have been ethnically cleansed for 80 years. How dare they speak up right? They should just die in silence and not bother the chosen race.

                    Of course, we need to believe and support the unknown random 1 day old user called “telavivgirlexpat” that posted 3 posts all centered around her dual citizenship.

                    Do you understand this is hasbara propaganda 101? Can we stop this fucking madness???

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              The government that controls much of Yemen has the tagline “Curse be upon the Jews”, so I’m not interested in moving in a wartorn country that wants me dead.

              Europe isn’t on the top of my places to move to because antisemitism is increasing there.

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                “Antisemitism” isn’t rising anywhere. The same people that have always been antisemetic are still antisemetic. What you’re seeing is anti-Israel sentiment, which is increasing because a country you have benefited from and therefore have responsibility to fix is committing an actual genocide and its soldiers - your soldiers, if you’re calling yourself Israeli, and quite likely your comrades unless the American part means you ran away to the US to avoid military service - are committing war crimes with smiles on Tiktok.

                Shirking your responsibility because of the bad vibes you get from being murderer-adjacent will not make you friends anywhere.

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                This is not antisemitism, the people you associate with ARE KILLING CHILDREN IN THE MOST BRUTAL WAY POSSIBLE. THE BURNED THEM ALIVE, THEY SNIPE KIDS AFTER LURING THEM OUT IN THE STREETS, PUT DRUGS IN THE FLOUR, BOMB THEM RELENTLESSLY WHILE STARVING.

                This is not antisemitism, this is human decency, the bare minimum. And since there are still people like yourself who can’t even acknowledge why there is a rise in israeli hate, i feel we should be even louder.

                you are still regurgitating hasbara propaganda, i hope no country will welcome you. You deserve no welcome until you change your attitude.