After more than forty years, everyone knows that it’s time to retire the X Window System – X11 for short – on account of it being old and decrepit. Or at least that’s what t…
One issue the wayland proponents fail to notice is that the ecosystem itself is fragmented, you have several DEs/WM with their own implementations and bugs that will likely never be fixed.
I’m an i3wm user, my only option to switch to is sway, doesn’t matter if some of the issues I have are fixed in kwin or mutter, it has to be fixed in sway.
But most Linux desktop users use Wayland already.
Most desktop users use windows, and they are happy with that, why don’t you stop using linux and move to windows?
Everyday there are more and more apps that are Wayland only. Before 2030, that list will include all GNOME and most GTK apps. Are people really going to give up all these applications because of some obscure advantage they perceive in X11?
You want me to track the progress of 4 bugs in Sway? Such a powerful argument. How about don’t use Sway?
One issue the wayland proponents fail to notice is that the ecosystem itself is fragmented
I did not fail to notice. I have another post here comparing compositors to web browsers. There is more than one by design. Long term, it is absolutely one of Wayland’s strengths. But ya, your experience is only going to be as good as the browser you choose.
For tiler lovers, Niri and Hyprland are both great. COSMIC is looking good but still Alpha. Plasma 6 is perhaps the best Wayland compositor at the moment.
why don’t you stop using linux and move to windows?
Hilarious. Linux has been my primary desktop since the 90’s. You probably need to get off my lawn.
Even more hilarious. Looks like you found an even crappier Wayland compositor than Sway.
Amongst the long list of broken things in 12to11, my favourite is this: “has not been tested on
window (and compositing) managers other than GNOME Shell”. GNOME is a Wayland first and soon to be Wayland only project. A project clinging to Wayland on X on GNOME is a perfect metaphor for the point I am making. Thank you for making my point so well.
By 2030, Xorg will be in the AUR and the only x server in the core Arch repos will be Wayback (Xwayland on Wayland).
Sounds like you will be using 12to11 to run Wayland apps on i3 on XWayland on Wayback (Wayland on X on Wayland). Good times.
You seem to think I am telling you to use Wayland though.I don’t care what you use. My point is that everybody else is happy leaving you behind. Keep using X. You can switch to the Dillo browser too if you want. LMAO.
Very subtle “Arch, BTW”, BTW. Nice.
For everybody else, here is the project you linked to. It is a fun little project.
Remind me 2030 if these issues I have get fixed:
https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/8000
https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/8001
https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/8002
https://github.com/swaywm/sway/issues/8191 I later learned the reason sway is using capabilities is to fix performance issues, which yeah still has several…
One issue the wayland proponents fail to notice is that the ecosystem itself is fragmented, you have several DEs/WM with their own implementations and bugs that will likely never be fixed.
I’m an i3wm user, my only option to switch to is sway, doesn’t matter if some of the issues I have are fixed in kwin or mutter, it has to be fixed in sway.
Most desktop users use windows, and they are happy with that, why don’t you stop using linux and move to windows?
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/12to11-git
Doesn’t remove the fact that wayland still sucks 😆
You want me to track the progress of 4 bugs in Sway? Such a powerful argument. How about don’t use Sway?
I did not fail to notice. I have another post here comparing compositors to web browsers. There is more than one by design. Long term, it is absolutely one of Wayland’s strengths. But ya, your experience is only going to be as good as the browser you choose.
For tiler lovers, Niri and Hyprland are both great. COSMIC is looking good but still Alpha. Plasma 6 is perhaps the best Wayland compositor at the moment.
Hilarious. Linux has been my primary desktop since the 90’s. You probably need to get off my lawn.
Even more hilarious. Looks like you found an even crappier Wayland compositor than Sway.
Amongst the long list of broken things in 12to11, my favourite is this: “has not been tested on window (and compositing) managers other than GNOME Shell”. GNOME is a Wayland first and soon to be Wayland only project. A project clinging to Wayland on X on GNOME is a perfect metaphor for the point I am making. Thank you for making my point so well.
By 2030, Xorg will be in the AUR and the only x server in the core Arch repos will be Wayback (Xwayland on Wayland).
Sounds like you will be using 12to11 to run Wayland apps on i3 on XWayland on Wayback (Wayland on X on Wayland). Good times.
You seem to think I am telling you to use Wayland though.I don’t care what you use. My point is that everybody else is happy leaving you behind. Keep using X. You can switch to the Dillo browser too if you want. LMAO.
Very subtle “Arch, BTW”, BTW. Nice.
For everybody else, here is the project you linked to. It is a fun little project.
https://git.linuxping.win/12to11/12to11