• JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org
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      There’s a few non-antisemitic takes. First off, it’s a depiction of NYT specifically. We should not immediately conflate this with Zionists in general.

      First is ‘capitalist pigs’. Israel as a project might be Zion to Zionists, but to organizations it’s a way to grab property and develop more speculative goods.

      The other can be from the perspective of NYT as a news org ‘pumping out cartloads of shit’.

      A final one I can think of is the pigs from Orwell’s Animal Farm. The pigs in it used manipulative rhetoric to get the other animals to both obey them and included standing by as their friends were executed for ‘the greater good’. At the End of the book, the pigs are no different than the humans the farm animals drove out to secure their freedom, dressing in human clothes, walking on two legs, living in the farmer’s house, and making deals with the farmers. It was a critique by Orwell of communist movements being hijacked to only benefit their vangaurds rather than the prolateriat as a whole, but I can see how the metaphor can fit for a news org siding with Zionists instead of writing truthfully about the Gaza genocide.

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      You seem more upset with a fictional possibility of an antisemitic symbol than with the actual genocide that’s currently being perpetrated by the Zionists

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          it’s more common to portray jews as rats. like i get where you’re coming from, but i think they picked what they picked to avoid the antisemitic dog whistle. that’s just my read though as a dude with curly hair, a big nose, and sensitivity to “is this person hating me for my jewish ancestry”

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              for sure. that’s like… kind of a genuine challenge with looking for and understanding antisemitism is that how it presents itself changes through the eras. but in our current age, i think people are more likely to associate pigs with capitalism and anti-jewishness than with jews. like. i think it’s important and good that we’re having these conversations so we can understand the current status of anti semitism especially as israeli backed organizations water down these things by applying the term antisemitism to too many things.

              and as you say, there’s a major aspect of regionality. antisemitism looks different depending on the place