• haloduder@thelemmy.club
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    6 hours ago

    Yes, we all know the most successful economic endeavors are funded by taxpayers. Then leeches come in to steal the profits from the public and useful idiots are all-to-proud to support them.

    Just look at how Iceland has the cheapest electricity on the planet; it’s because they built their infrastructure using public money without an incentive to maximize profit.

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      6 hours ago

      That’s not what I’m implying.

      TSMC would not have thrived if it was purely nationalized, and could have easily collapsed into capitalist hell.

      For the processor fab business, specifically, the ideal conditions seem to be some kind of bastardized hybrid. Samsung and China Semi are not far from ‘hybrids’ either, while the corpses of pure extremes (GloFo, Intel, the Soviet’s and modern Russia’s computing efforts, DARPA projects, other pure government efforts and some RISC ones) are littered everywhere.

      Intel was heading towards a state-supported hybrid, but apparently not anymore (and is now barreling into capitalist collapse).

      The other part of what I’m saying is this does not necessarily apply to, say, the hotel business like Trump is channeling, where short term maneuvering and branding pay off more. Nor engergy generation, which is different too (and probably should be nationalized in such a geothermal-heavy place like Iceland).

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        5 hours ago

        In which nation is energy generation not using vast natural resources at huge initial outlay where companies have a boner for monopolising or cartels and exploiting scarcity to drive up prices?

        Side note: DARPA’s TCP/IP networky thing seems to have had some future in it!