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  • MTK@lemmy.world
    16·
    2 days ago

    Pretty sure he said implied fuck.

    Also, there is an anonymous person who did an interview and claims to have been a victim in Epstein’s island and that Trump raped them specifically because they were similar to his daughter.

  • WanderWisley@lemmy.world
    11·
    2 days ago

    It would be nice to have a president that you could go literally minutes without having to be in continuous dread about what they are saying, lying, and posting about doing to you. I know I dream big.

  • guyincognito@piefed.socialEnglish
    199·
    2 days ago

    The problems with Americans that say this is that this sentence is the limit to the extent they’re willing to fight for their freedom. You’re not absolved of the responsibility for your government. Regardless of how much you hate them, they represent you. The government’s actions are yours.

    • wheezy@lemmy.ml
      73·
      2 days ago

      Partly agree. I would criticize liberals that believe the lie of “voting is the only thing that matters”. They will happily spend the next 4 years saying shit like this because they won’t actually be hurt by fascist policy directly. They can make comments like this and move on with their day.

      That would require them to be a part of a minority group being targeted OR be working with activist groups that are helping to protect the targets of ICE.

      I’m a white male. I could ride this shit out until the USSR flies their flag over Berlin. But I’m not doing that. (And I was already on a list long before Trump rode the escalator anyway).

      But if someone that is a targeted group and/or is actively resisting Fascism says this. Well, it’s probably just them letting off some steam. But, you’re right. I do find this is just liberals saying “America deserves this” as an excuse to not do anything that doesn’t personally hurt them directly.

      • guyincognito@piefed.socialEnglish
        4·
        2 days ago

        I can get behind your sentiment of just blowing off steam, but I feel like it actually has the opposite long term effect that these people are going for. What I mean is that it creates a sense of complacency.

        Unfortunately, I don’t think the Trump regime is going anywhere. There is no riding this out. You just have to turn on any news source to see the violations to peace, freedom and democracy he’s violating. It’s been 6 months and this much has already been done. Very sadly to me, I don’t think peaceful protest or voting will change anything.

        We’ve all read history and we can surmise that this will only get worse. Much much worse. He’s coming for everyone who dissents one group at a time. We, with any kind of wisdom, know where this goes. The only positive change will call for crimson streets.

        My suggestion to blow off steam is to learn to use a gun and how to use it well. Words are water off the backs of the pedo class. I hate this new world.

        • wheezy@lemmy.ml
          31·
          2 days ago

          They are potentially allies. But they are also just as likely to be the ones left when “there was no one left to speak out for me”.

          That’s literally the point of that famous poem. It’s about watching and doing nothing as Fascism targets each group they don’t belong.

          It doesn’t start with “first they came for the Liberals” it starts with “first they came for the communist”.

        • kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          74·
          2 days ago

          A lot of liberals will just go along and continue about their normal lives until it’s too late. They aren’t our allies.

          The ones that are willing to get out there and do stuff are.

    • Mulligrubs@lemmy.worldEnglish
      25·
      1 day ago

      That’s not how any of this works. In many states in the USA, your votes for President are for entertainment purposes only; with our electoral college you can actually lose the popular vote and still win the election.

      More and more people are leaving the major parties every day, voters are 40% independent with Ds and Rs at 30% each. I predict that the major parties will continue to lose voters every year, and anti-incumbent voters will increase.

      • Psythik@lemmy.world
        51·
        1 day ago

        That’s exactly how it works in a 2 party system. Voting for a 3rd party is throwing away your vote, no matter how you try to spin it.

        • Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca
          4·
          1 day ago

          Eh, if your state goes 70% R and has for the last 50 years, there’s not much you can do. Unless there’s a big movement, 100% of those votes go to R. Getting better local representation might be more worth it.

          It’s a really shitty system that promotes really shitty incentives, and has even shittier outcomes. I generally advocate for strategic voting, but in some places your vote literally doesn’t matter.

    • emeralddawn45@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      615·
      2 days ago

      “At least i didn’t vote for a fascist who would date his daughter. I voted for the other fascist who supports genocide.”

    • wheezy@lemmy.ml
      1111·
      2 days ago

      If every single third party vote was given to Harris she still would have lost.

      Harris was such a historically bad candidate that she literally lost to the couch.

    • kreskin@lemmy.world
      714·
      2 days ago

      You caught me, everything Kamala did to lose the election was my fault. Campaigning with Cheney? Talking about how much I love my glock while you all fear for your kids lives in grade schools? talking about wanting to always have the strongest military in the world? thats on me. I made her do that. You should have seen how strenuously she objected, but I made it happen-- such is my power.

      Ignoring the working class, and supporting genocide, again, me. Losing the party base across nearly every single voting demographic? me again. I told her to say she wouldnt change a thing from Bidens policies, when they were polling in the 30s. She wanted to be progressive and give the people what they wanted, but I would not let her do that.

      I made Biden stay in the race so late too-- he didnt even want to run again and I made him pretend to be too ego driven to let go. Heck, I made Biden support a far right wing theocratic genocide of innocents. I snuck that in with some other papers and he signed it.

      And why am I so evil? You were correct when you guessed that its because I have no ethics and am secretly a trump supporter. Its time I admit it. Also I am racist and misogynist. Also an antisemite. And I am out to get lgbtq.

      Feels good to get that off my chest. So we can finally put this sad dead horse to bed now right? No more whining?

  • Dagwood_Sanwich@lemmy.world
    113·
    2 days ago

    If Trump was on the Epstein files in a way that they could have used to prosecute him, the Democrats would have released the files related to Trump and redacted anything else.

    The Democrats spent 8 years digging through Trump’s life looking for anything they could have prosecuted him for but somehow overlooked the Epstein files?

    I don’t think so.

    • Mulligrubs@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      1 day ago

      It’s not just Trump in the Trumpstein files. There is international pressure to keep a lid on this (UK royal family and Israel, who knows who else is involved). There are thousands of deposits of over a billion dollars to Epstein, Trump is one of many.

      The most powerful and concerned about these records are unlikely to even be public figures, we’re talking real money and not the political circus clown show.

      Also, much of it was sealed for years (and much more remains sealed)