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      She wasn’t too icky, it’s very possible that they rigged the election by tampering with the voting machines. Suspicious that they pushed them so hard and limited mail-in ballots. They also did a whole lot of voter suppression in other ways.

      Also remember that Clinton won the popular vote last time.

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      Implying if Democrats won, they wouldn’t just be letting all this stuff happen anyway for “civility” or whatever bullshit excuse they can come up with for refusing to wield power and actually help people.

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      It’s wrong to blame the voters. The people deserved a good faith primary election with the chance to vote for a non genocidal maniac who isn’t owned by Israel, and Dems refused to allow it. DNC leadership squarely to blame for this mess.

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        It’s wrong to blame the voters.

        Fuck that. 10 million less than voted for Biden voted for Harris. Are these people so fucking stupid they forgot who Trump is?

        The “primary” thing is a pretty pathetic excuse for helping a convicted felon child rapist win the presidency. Take to a moment to FUCKING THINK about what you’re saying. That no primary, for the vice president, the person we choose to take Office in the event of an incapacitated president, means a convicted felon child rapist is the better choice. That’s your position. We voted for her and Biden in 2020, that’s how that works. Bernie wasn’t gonna win this time, he was gonna lose like he did the last two times. And guess who Bernie told you to vote for? Kamala Fucking Harris.

        Israel? Really? Because now Netanyahu is going to kick out all the Palestinians and Trump will do everything to help. Are you pretending to have the high ground here? No, you made things worse for them. You used their lives to make a political point. You do NOT get to pretend to care about Palestinians.

        I’m so tired of these excuses. It’s not DNC’s fault. Biden won handily in 2020. Trump did not rig the election. This time it IS the voters’ fault. It’s completely inexcusable. Democrats proved just how petty, stupid and short-sighted they can truly be and subjected us to what could be the fucking end of the country. We could’ve had a sane president and Trump in prison, but they gave us this. Enough excuses, take responsibility for your decision.

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          America simply prefers a tyrant to a woman

          Was going to say fascist to a female for the alliteration but eh people get mad when you say “female”

          Thanks for ruining the word “female” incels

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          I don’t think he does.

          Even if the choice had been Senile old man who sleeps for 4 years vs. Trump

          The choice was EASILY Senile old man.

          If you chose not to vote, you chose a vote for Trump.

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            Biden refused to run a campaign and administration that provided any meaningful progressive vision and then he dropped out only after it was too late.

            Of course he does.

            edit -to be fair to Biden his administration did get a lot of wins, such as some great environmental policies… but I am talking about a broad vision and rhetoric. An actual alternative to Republican visions of catastrophe that challenge the flawed assumptions at the heart of conservatism. Exhibit A) is how Biden and other powerful establishment democrats never really pushed back on Republican narratives about immigration which opened the door further for Trump to dial things up to 11 in his cruelty towards immigrants in his second term

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            The senile old man who indicated he’d be a 1-term president then refused to give up the reins when he should have, which stopped voters from actually being able to choose their leading candidate and disenfranchised a lot of people. That was a choice HE made.

            When he doddered his confused old ass out onto the debate stage on June 27, 2024 he handed the country back to trump.

            He’s a piece of shit who deserves to be forgotten.

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          That is because you are too cowardly to understand a necessary solidarity between US citizens and Palestinians being slaughtered by primarily US weapons. There is no future for anyone if we cannot drive the wedge of empathy into the machinery of mass death, the Palestinian Genocide is simply a preview of our fates (how many US police departments have trained with the IDF? The answer is a lot) if we do not demand it stop with everything we have.

          Shame on you for taking the easy road out and reacting impulsively when the truth is too uncomfortable for you to think about critically.

          People will treat you the way you treat others, so let me ask you how do you think people will treat you for being toxic towards people speaking out against a genocide we are complicit in and could stop?

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            Cool, you win the moral victory while this country is literally torn to pieces.

            Congrats on winning!

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              Great thanks, what do you win for condescending the humanity of Palestinians at a level that bankrupts your intellectual capacity to empathize with people being slaughtered at a mass indiscriminate scale by your countries weapons, money and diplomatic cover?

              What you win is the same future for all of us, fool.