I mean, is the US really the metric you want to use? If anyone is even slightly better, even fractionally, than the US it means they’re doing fine? Seems like too low a bar to me.
As this arcticle is about the US administration condemning the human rights situation in the UK I think it is the metric that makes the most sense here.
Saying “yeah the US administration may be fascists and are conducting this assessment to push right extreme parties in Europe, but that doesn’t matter because they are right” is a very dangerous position in my opinion.
it’s not that it doesn’t matter, and no one here holds that position. it’s that “UK is fascist” is not any less true just because it’s the fascist US that said it
I’m American, living in the UK, and have recently been to the US. The US is visibly fascist. The UK isn’t, despite the government’s heavy-handed, imbecilic ban on Palestine Action, and their even stupider efforts to ban encryption. Starting with Tony Blair, Labour has had a strong authoritarian faction, exemplified by the dire Yvette Cooper, but so far they haven’t succeeded in turning the whole country to shit.
I mean, is the US really the metric you want to use? If anyone is even slightly better, even fractionally, than the US it means they’re doing fine? Seems like too low a bar to me.
As this arcticle is about the US administration condemning the human rights situation in the UK I think it is the metric that makes the most sense here.
Saying “yeah the US administration may be fascists and are conducting this assessment to push right extreme parties in Europe, but that doesn’t matter because they are right” is a very dangerous position in my opinion.
Edit: Oh what a coincidence https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/13/world/europe/jd-vance-nigel-farage-reform-uk.html
it’s not that it doesn’t matter, and no one here holds that position. it’s that “UK is fascist” is not any less true just because it’s the fascist US that said it
I’m American, living in the UK, and have recently been to the US. The US is visibly fascist. The UK isn’t, despite the government’s heavy-handed, imbecilic ban on Palestine Action, and their even stupider efforts to ban encryption. Starting with Tony Blair, Labour has had a strong authoritarian faction, exemplified by the dire Yvette Cooper, but so far they haven’t succeeded in turning the whole country to shit.
No, one should not trust the US by default, but one also shouldn’t dismiss the conclusion just because the US is one of the ones who came to it.