The problem is the theology doesn’t match, there is no common god of Christians, Jews, and Muslims because Christians believe Jesus is god and divine and neither of the others do meaning their god’s identity is different. Christians and Jews believe the Quran contains lies, Muslims and Jews believe the Christian bible contains lies, and Christians and Muslims believe the Jewish bible contains lies. Hell even within each there are sects that believe different things about god, like Christians who believe they are saved by being chosen, by faith alone, or by faith and works.
Religions when formed usually branch from an existing religion (e.g. Christianity started as a Jewish apocalyptic cult, Mormon branches from that, etc), but change the theology enough so that the old clergy/church is no longer valid wrt the new faith position.
Trinity beliefs only were established around 400 AD as dominant in Christianity, however to this day there are non-trinitarian Christians. Christians still understand themselves as monotheists and are also considered “people of the book” in Islam, just like Jews are.
Most versions of the bible say that Jesus didn’t break with the scripture before, but confirms and expands it. Subsequently Islam does the same, with some corrections, most notably the clear rejection of trinitarianism. The prophet whose story is shown the most in the Quran is Moses.
As far as i can tell from the translations i have read, neither the Bible nor Quran specifically oppose previous scripture.
Trinitarian vs unitarian is a theological difference that requires different definitions and identities of god even if they both use the monotheist label. These are not compatible differences, you would have to believe contradictory beliefs to say one god identity exists and represents both trinitarian and unitarian theologies and is the same god. Just because they share the same name doesn’t mean they share the same properties.
The Christian bible disagrees with the Jewish bible unless you apply the Christian apologetic hermeneutics of someone who believes the Christian bible. Instead of saying they’re replacing theology they’re going to fulfill and expand and enhance, theology+. The anonymously written Christian gospels say Jesus is the messiah but the Jewish bible messianic prophecies say the messiah would be a king who rules on the throne of David that Jesus never did. The Christian bible gospels misquote from the Jewish bible that were not prophecies (born of a virgin vs young girl already pregnant, quoting Zekariah as Jeremiah, etc) because the gospel writers were using a Greek translated version instead of books originally written in Hebrew. It says you don’t need to follow the old law and prophets and sacrifices anymore when the Jewish bible says they need to be followed forever. Hell being eternal torture is a clear break from the legacy Jewish dogma.
I’m not educated on the Quran but I’m pretty sure neither Jews nor Christians believe the same theology at Muslims which are derived from their god beliefs, otherwise they would have included the Quran in their bibles too or have books in their dogma about the laws and teachings of Muhammad as a messiah. They can’t change the established dogma so they spin up a new religion to change the theology.
Hell being eternal torture is a clear break from the legacy Jewish dogma
To be fair, isn’t that non-biblical Christian teaching? The same way the trinity is? Actually, even less than the trinity, because wasn’t that only established basically thanks to Renaissance author Dante Alighieri, who was borrowing artistic ideas from classical Greek mythology?
Dante and John Milton did a lot to forming the modern mythology, along with the eternal punishment in hell fire Jesus talks about in gospels attributed to Mark and Matthew (some Sumerian and Greek myths probably contributed too to common conceptions):
Matt 18 8-9:
8 And if your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life crippled or lame than with two hands or two feet to be thrown into the eternal fire. 9 And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into the hell of fire.
Most versions of the bible say that Jesus didn’t break with the scripture before, but confirms and expands it. Subsequently Islam does the same, with some corrections, most notably the clear rejection of trinitarianism. The prophet whose story is shown the most in the Quran is Moses.
Furthering that, Mormons also believe Mohammed was a different kind of prophet and LDS church is basically just another expansion pack of monotheism.
Bunch of heathens following Ben Reilly /s
The problem is the theology doesn’t match, there is no common god of Christians, Jews, and Muslims because Christians believe Jesus is god and divine and neither of the others do meaning their god’s identity is different. Christians and Jews believe the Quran contains lies, Muslims and Jews believe the Christian bible contains lies, and Christians and Muslims believe the Jewish bible contains lies. Hell even within each there are sects that believe different things about god, like Christians who believe they are saved by being chosen, by faith alone, or by faith and works.
Religions when formed usually branch from an existing religion (e.g. Christianity started as a Jewish apocalyptic cult, Mormon branches from that, etc), but change the theology enough so that the old clergy/church is no longer valid wrt the new faith position.
Trinity beliefs only were established around 400 AD as dominant in Christianity, however to this day there are non-trinitarian Christians. Christians still understand themselves as monotheists and are also considered “people of the book” in Islam, just like Jews are.
Most versions of the bible say that Jesus didn’t break with the scripture before, but confirms and expands it. Subsequently Islam does the same, with some corrections, most notably the clear rejection of trinitarianism. The prophet whose story is shown the most in the Quran is Moses.
As far as i can tell from the translations i have read, neither the Bible nor Quran specifically oppose previous scripture.
Trinitarian vs unitarian is a theological difference that requires different definitions and identities of god even if they both use the monotheist label. These are not compatible differences, you would have to believe contradictory beliefs to say one god identity exists and represents both trinitarian and unitarian theologies and is the same god. Just because they share the same name doesn’t mean they share the same properties.
The Christian bible disagrees with the Jewish bible unless you apply the Christian apologetic hermeneutics of someone who believes the Christian bible. Instead of saying they’re replacing theology they’re going to fulfill and expand and enhance, theology+. The anonymously written Christian gospels say Jesus is the messiah but the Jewish bible messianic prophecies say the messiah would be a king who rules on the throne of David that Jesus never did. The Christian bible gospels misquote from the Jewish bible that were not prophecies (born of a virgin vs young girl already pregnant, quoting Zekariah as Jeremiah, etc) because the gospel writers were using a Greek translated version instead of books originally written in Hebrew. It says you don’t need to follow the old law and prophets and sacrifices anymore when the Jewish bible says they need to be followed forever. Hell being eternal torture is a clear break from the legacy Jewish dogma.
I’m not educated on the Quran but I’m pretty sure neither Jews nor Christians believe the same theology at Muslims which are derived from their god beliefs, otherwise they would have included the Quran in their bibles too or have books in their dogma about the laws and teachings of Muhammad as a messiah. They can’t change the established dogma so they spin up a new religion to change the theology.
To be fair, isn’t that non-biblical Christian teaching? The same way the trinity is? Actually, even less than the trinity, because wasn’t that only established basically thanks to Renaissance author Dante Alighieri, who was borrowing artistic ideas from classical Greek mythology?
Dante and John Milton did a lot to forming the modern mythology, along with the eternal punishment in hell fire Jesus talks about in gospels attributed to Mark and Matthew (some Sumerian and Greek myths probably contributed too to common conceptions):
Matt 18 8-9: 8 And if your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life crippled or lame than with two hands or two feet to be thrown into the eternal fire. 9 And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into the hell of fire.
Furthering that, Mormons also believe Mohammed was a different kind of prophet and LDS church is basically just another expansion pack of monotheism.